AI stealing our work. The collapse of social networks. The need to pay journalists to produce impactful journalism. Here is why we are asking for your email address to read 404 Media.
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themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
tja@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So basically you need to spam me. Because a donation plea every so often . . .doesn’t get enough addresses to sell?
I’m saying it’s a flawed implementation is all.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 months ago
Purely anecdotal but they're the only news site that I've ever given my email to and I actually enjoy seeing their emails. They send entire (interesting) articles that can be read with no CSS/tracking images enabled and their monetisation is a small text ad that breaks a single couple of paragraphs.
I've never gotten an email from them that was begging for money or anything like that, just basically an RSS feed of interesting articles
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 months ago
The idea that forcing a signup (building a web of information about a user through the use of cookies and other browser metadata) to protect against AI (that is gonna use tooling, mirrors, proxies and any number of fully working methodologies) is ludicrous.
They just want to track who you are, what you do, and then sell that data which should never have been gathered in the first place as part of their advertising revenue.
DesertCreosote@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Normally I would agree with you, but given how much they care about privacy (as indicated by what they write about and talk about on their podcast), I don’t think tracking is what they’re after in this specific case.
And they know that the signup won’t completely block AI, but it does help.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Softest paywall ever - they do such good work, they can have an anonymous email of mine no problem
Magic link’s so annoying though, just wanna password (they’re journalists not techies though is the long and short of it)
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Or…
But they are the same mob so why is the suffix different? ph, vn, is, md, today are interchangeable.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Redundancy, in case of loss of a domain.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Perhaps “suffixes” was not the best expression on my part.
I wasn’t talking about different domains. I was talking about different filenames. The domains are indeed interchangeable. What we have here is two copies of the same file on the same domain.
Manjushri@piefed.social 2 months ago
They are captures of the same page at different times .
https://archive.is/5QFkF is the snapshot taken 7 Nov 2025 01:40 and
https://archive.is/TFqAx is the one taken 6 Nov 2024 17:08
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 months ago
Meta