Comment on Maybe there was a cure for human cancer, but it didn't work at all in mice.

the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  And animal testing regardless of the benefit humans may receive is morally wrong.

  You can say whatever you want, but just because you feel it really hard doesnt mean it will be convincing to other people.

  In this particular case, I think animal testing is moral as fuck, because why in the fuck would I possibly value animal lives even close to that of a human or myself.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why do you matter more than any other animal?

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    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Because I care about me more than any other animal.

      If someone tried to kill you, would you just let them or not?

      Any sane answer says you value you more than someone else.

      Its crazy you find this opinion applied to animals to be offensive.

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      • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Humans, particularly those in modern societies, live outside of natural order. We don’t contribute anything to it and just use it up. We slaughter millions of animals that we first rape to keep manufacturing them like their products. The animals were experiment in often never see the sky or feel the earth. You matter more than them?

        Yeah, I’m the crazy one…

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• phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So what, we just test things in a dish and then hope it works in a complex organism? Because the other alternative is human testing.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We do like every other animal on the planet and die.

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    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The funny thing about this very dumb take, is if the people who believed it followed through, the idea would eventually die out.

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      • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Followed through with what? Talk about dumb takes.

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    • ebolapie@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You have fun with that, I’ll take the medicine.

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• SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There are many types of cancer with very high remission rates after treatment.

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  • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Treatment isn’t a cure.

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