Comment on If "James Bond" is a codename, would a hypothetical female operative filling the same role receive the same codename?

Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That doesn't seem very clever, going around sharing your own name despite being a spy.

  Yet Ian Flemming was supposed to use his past experience in British Intelligence to come up with Bond's novels, so what do I know.

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  • Infrapink@thebrainbin.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It's actually standard practice for secret agents to use their real names, as accidentally failing to respond to a pseudonym is one if the easiest ways to blow their cover.

    Furthermore, Bond is a secret agent. The fact that he's a spy who has tons if amazing adventures is not public knowledge, let alone well-known. We the audience know James Bond as a super-popular action hero from a long series of movies, but in his own universe there is nothing particularly special or noteworthy about the name James Bond.

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    • massive_bereavement@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      • Mata Hari was Margaretha Geertruida Zelle.
      • Fritz Duqesne had at least 30 known aliases.
      • Lise de Baissac was primarily known as Irene Brisse but also Odile, Margerite and Adele.
      • Even Dušan Popov, who's allegedly the source for James Bond used in more than one occasion aliases like Duchan, Dusan or Hans: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/record?catid=8204882&catln=6
      • Eli Cohen also used a fake Syrian identity because c'mon, you won't go around with an Israeli name trying to get into the Syrian government.

      I know that double agents like Richard Sorge or Aldrich Ames would use their actual identities, but fake identities or even using the names of deceased people is very common.

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      • Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Also, in the Bond universe a LOT of people seem to know who he is, it’s not public knowledge per se, but like it seems that all major intelligence services have heard of him and also anybody with power and connections and ill-intent.

        He kinda operates like a really weird form of special forces than a spy half the time.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    He wasn’t really a good spy. 🤷‍♂️

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    • OriginalUsername7@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But you have heard of him! Which eh… ya actually maybe you’ve a point there.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Archer moment

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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s like a fan theory, which explains why James Bond has always been James Bond despite having many different actors portray him.

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• MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Correct. This did in fact happen in No Time to Die (though of course ::: spoiler he ends up gaining it back by the end of the movie :::)

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