Comment on Nearly 90% of Windows Games now run on Linux, latest data shows — as Windows 10 dies, gaming on Linux is more viable than ever

• pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  For gamers who are newcomes to Linux, Ubuntu (or Debian) should be a hard pass. Linux gaming is advancing too fast for the 2-3 year gap between LTS versions to not matter, and trying to work around the stable (outdated) packages is typically what ends up breaking installs.

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  • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How fedora still struggles to keep up sometimes which has always confused me why people suggest a bazzite. Not to mention how many community tools and communities that are starting to support Linux. Only support Arch and don’t support anything else.

    Which means you now have new users trying to figure out how to f*** to compile or install software outside of their package managers without a flat pack or anything. Just to use the same community tools that they used on Windows.

    While it’s just in the aur because it’s supported. Seriously cachyOS is such a easier solution for new comers.

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    • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      People suggest Bazzite because it just works and is difficult to break or otherwise have things to wrong. I’m not sure what you mean by “struggles to keep up”, can you explain?

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  • StitchInTime@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I actually just switched to Ubuntu 25.10 from Bazzite. Can you recommend me other (non atomic) distros that play nice with both secure boot and nvidia drivers? I don’t think fedora does. I’m not interested in managing keys and certs for my drivers, and do occasionally play those anti-cheat games on a dedicated windows partition. I’d rather not toggle secure boot each time I reboot.

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    • pivot_root@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Can you recommend me other (non atomic) distros that play nice with both secure boot and nvidia drivers?

      I wouldn’t exactly recommend it because of the learning curve, but I have the exact setup you’re looking for working on NixOS.

      Lanzaboote made it pretty easy. The downside is that you need to put secure boot into user-managed mode, and some asshole anticheats might not like that even though only Microsoft-signed executables were used in the boot chain of Windows.

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    • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Did you set up secure boot during setup of Bazzite, out of curiosity? It has the ability to function with it and should prompt you if I remember correctly.

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      • StitchInTime@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t think I did originally, but I don’t recall secure boot being an issue with it when I did do the switch. I may have had to install a key or something, but I honestly don’t remember.

        I’ve had driver issues with Fedora 42 under secure boot (RTX 3060ti), and Ubuntu seems to be the winner so far that’s playing nice with everything. I haven’t run into any gaming issues yet besides the latest Sonic Racing game not starting.

        I love the philosophy of Atomic distros like Kinoite and even run Bazzite on my AMD living room “console”. I’d recommend them all day long to folks new in the space since they’re hard to break by design - especially Bazzite for a gaming machine if invasive anticheat isn’t needed - but it’s not for me.

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    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      CACHYOS literally ANYTHING arch based.

      There’s a REAL good reason steam uses arch. A REALLY REALLY GOOD ONE.

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      • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Cachy won’t necessarily be a magic bullet for Nvidia drivers, especially for older GPUs.

        It’s a good option though, I just wanted to set expectations.

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• wavebeam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  lol, lots of folks responding to me doing the exact thing i was warning about. Honestly, just pick one that seems like it offers what you’re looking for.

  If you want it to feel kind of familiar to windows, pick KDE as your desktop environment. you can have this in pretty much any distro, some make it easier to set as part of the install process.

  If you want it to be harder to fuck up, but with less flexibility for customization or being on the bleeding edge of support, pick an immutable distro like bazzite

  If you wan full flexibility and the added danger and complexity that brings, go for an arch-based distro. lot of great comments below too with actually good details and not just “people are dumb for using X, they should use Y because i’m smarter” - specifically dubyakay and Holytimes are offering some great details.

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• FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Dude, we don’t know what you just said. Lol

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  • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tbh it actually doesn’t matter that much. There’s like a million different distros, but really there’s like 3 base distros (yes Linux nuts, this is an oversimplification) of Debian, Fedora, and Arch. Ubuntu has gotten a lot of hate lately for their choice of forced package manager, but it’s probably fine. It’ll matter way more to you what desktop environment you select. I’d recommend looking into Bazzite for gaming. It’s based on fedora and it has a bunch of gaming stuff built in, but also does great for anything else. It’s made to be the steamOS for anything not a steam deck. Go with KDE for a windows-like desktop experience.

    The three base distros mentioned are ones that other distros use as their base

    E.g.

    Debian -> Ubuntu, Mint, Pop_OS!

    Fedora -> Bazzite, Nobara

    Arch -> EndeavourOS, Manjaro, CachyOS

    While you can customize the base distros however you want, think of these derivate distros as various prebuilts.

    Most distros come with a package manager that allows you to download (software) packages from a centralized repository. Similar to say Microsoft store. Ubuntu was dissed for Canonical (the creators of Ubuntu) forcing their own package manager into it, which had various issues, while there were already well established package managers available.

    Desktop Environment (DE) is what you see on your screen. Various elements control how the task bar or app bar behaves or what it looks like, what windows are stylized like, and how they behave etc. For someone coming from Windows, Linux Mint’s Cinnamon DE or any distro with KDE will likely be most familiar experience, while those switching from MacOS, Gnome DE as the Fedora default is very similar.

    Bazzite is a gaming focused distro based on Fedora.

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    • FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Can you install your own package manager? Are there established quality ones?

      Thanks for this btw

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    • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Which distro is the steam deck based on?

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      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Arch. Use cachyOS which is arch it’s just what steamOS is but with a focus on also being a normal desktop on top.

        Seriously do not understand why people push bazzite when it’s just a more complicated less supported option compared to cachyOS. For the exact same work load.

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      • TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Arch

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• addie@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Listen, there’s dozens of Linux users on Void, Slackware and Gentoo. Dozens! Especially the ones wanting to run the latest games. Can’t just leave all of them out.

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  • wavebeam@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    lol, i know you’re joking, but this is the kinda thing i think actually really confuses and scares people who are unfamiliar with linux. There absolutely are really great distros out there that aren’t the big players, but for a newcomer they can probably stick to a big distro that seems nice and if they start getting the bug they can come back for a deeper dive. deciding to just do it is way more important than getting it “right” imo.

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    • addie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Indeed - I’ve seen more people recommend Hannah Montana Linux (apt-based) than any of those for newcomers recently.

      You are entirely right that a Linux distribution is really just its package manager, the default packages installed, and some remote repositories which may (or may not) have had some customisation applied, which will have been pulled and built from a source repository somewhere. All that’s really needed to swap between eg. Arch, Manjaro or Cachy is to update the repo files and issue a package manager update command, although I’d probably like to verify my backups and get a stiff drink first.

      The House of Linux is built out of bricks, and the bricks aren’t that scary - you can take them to bits and look at them if you like, they’re usually zipped-up folders of text files and the binaries you’d get from compiling them yourself. But if that’s not what you’re used to, then yeah - 🤯 .

      In all seriousness, I wish that most distros had art half as good as what Void Linux has - got some really gifted people, there.

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• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The problem with bazzite is it’s just an objectively worse option then cachyOS if your using your PC exclusively to game.

  Immutable distros and the lack of aur can be such a massive pain in the fucking ass if you play games with a lot of community tools.

  Almost exclusively every community tool I’ve ever seen for any game only ever supports Arch and never anything else. So while you can use other things, it sucks to have to compile it all yourself every f****** update.

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  • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ve never had an issue with any community tools on an immutable distro. Especially distros that have distrobox, but for the most part, the community tools I’ve needed use lutris or flatpak and do not require compilation. Do you have an example of some of the tools you’re talking about? I’m not necessarily doubting you, I just haven’t encountered it before. You can also still install things (at the cost of image space) with rpm-ostree.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I can access the aur on Bazzite easily using my Arch distrobox.

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