Comment on All cults go through phases of culling the non-believers. Anytime you justify a cult leaders anti-social behavior solely for the benefits you get by keeping the cult going you've begun this process.

ExtremeDullard@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  That’s not super common. Heaven’s Gate type cults get a lot of headlines when they do, but they tend to be the exception.

  Most cults either disperse almost immediately when their central leader dies or goes to jail (Onedia cult), or they fail to keep up with the long term turnover and fade away (Shakers).

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• aramis87@fedia.io ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A lot of them end up culling the believers too in the end.

  Robespierre was killed by the Revolution.

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• Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Its not only MAGA, though.

  Its been so discouraging watching what happened with Hasan (twitch streamer). Hasan is blatantly abusing his dog on stream solely to bolster his image. Everything related to the event has been swept under the rug and the will continue on.

  In the future Hasan viewers will accept that a little bit of dog abuse is acceptable because they rather continue following Hasan then accept Hasan is a bad person.

  The frustrating part is people will hand wave Hasans behavior saying, “he can never admit fault because of his ideology.” When it’s really an act of control against his viewers. They allow him to shape their reality and giving him power. It doesnt matter if its Kaya being abused or Hasan stabbed someone in the eye. He will continue to inch his following into full devotion because at a certain people it will become impossible for them to admit they were wrong because that is admitting they enabled an abuser.

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  • Samskara@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The left is full of this kind of purity testing.

    Social media has accelerated the forming of lots of small cults and polarization.

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    • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can hate on Hasan, but at least provide someone other than Ethan Klein doing the analysis… the guy obviously has a long history of beef with Hasan and honestly it boils down to a lot of he said she said kind of argument which is not only tiresome but rife with so much bias its impossible to separate fact from fiction when it comes to either of their accounts of each other.

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  • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t know, I saw a YouTube video of a dog trainer who watched the video and basically said Hasan wasn’t likely to be abusing his dog, at least based off the specific video in question.

    I’m not a fan of Hasan. I agree with a lot of what he has to say in regards to political matters, but I’m just not into the drama that surrounds debate bro culture in which he is a major figure.

    That said, this issue with his dog is potentially a smear campaign, and there seems to be at least some credible evidence to suggest it is.

    Here is the dog trainer in question. He claims to not have any political or social affiliation with Hasan, which I take at face value, but you can ascertain for yourself whether or not to believe him or not.

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    • Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I saw a YouTube video of a dog trainer

      I hate you

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      • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not according to any dog trainer you’d speak to. Sorry dude, I default to experts in their fields when considering thinfs, not just my emotional gut reaction.

        But if you’re a certified dog trainer, I’d be willing to give your opinion equal consideration.

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