Not according to any dog trainer you’d speak to. Sorry dude, I default to experts in their fields when considering thinfs, not just my emotional gut reaction.
But if you’re a certified dog trainer, I’d be willing to give your opinion equal consideration.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
It doesnt matter. You’ve already proved my point.
The question was did hasan shock his dog. No only do you accept he shocked his dog now you are completely on board with it.
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z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Ugh. Okay man, the expert’s opinion doesn’t matter. You win, lol.
Like I say, I’m not a fan of Hasan, as I find debate bros culture kind of distasteful, but the only way you can convince me that Hasan definitely abused his dog is to provide me with a contrary argument provided by someone who is an expert on dog training.
I’ll wait dude, seriously. Just provide me with any evidence that has a shred of credibility.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
I thing called a consensus. It comes from inside.
z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
Look, you can find Hasan’s use of his dog as a prop for his streams distasteful. Heck, I’d agree with that sentiment.
But saying someone inflicted animal abuse is a serious accusation that has legal ramifications should it have occurred.
According to one account of a single expert which I provided, Hasan has not committed what I can only assume many in his field would be considered animal abuse.
You can question his credentials, you can question his legitimacy, you can question your own society’s definition of what constitutes animal abuse. Heck, you can even push your lawmakers to change the definition of what constitutes animal abuse.
But as it stands currently, it does not appear, from my admittedly very limited point of view, that Hasan did not commit animal abuse as it is currently defined in the laws surrounding it in the United States.
Look, I am even sympathetic to your argument, but when an expert in dog behavior is telling me this is acceptable forms of disciplining your dog, and I perceive that they are presenting their expertise in good faith, then I simply value their definitively expert opinion over the emotional reactions of overly hyped fans of one side or another in what I consider to be a toxic soup of debate bros accolades.
If you at least cannot see why I might think that, then I don’t know what else I can say to you other than I’m sorry that you feel that way.