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FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Symbolism is a very important aspect of public protest and the consequential reporting on and influence of it.

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• Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Can’t open source Apple phones.

  So basically, getting rid of tech that spies on you and can’t be used anymore after a certain point I guess.

  And unlike books, tech has made some things worse. Job applications for one thing. When we were young, recruiters had to physically read the letters and/or places hiring had to physically see you in person.

  Now hiring agencies just use automated tools (even before AI) and you get ghosted constantly.

  Renting and housing has gotten more expensive because prices can be changed on the fly based on market data available 24/7 (effigy is illegal in many places, but that law rarely enforced).

  And that’s not getting into brainrot AI content and manipulative machinations of social media.

  There’s definitely reasons to be frustrated at tech for the younger generation. And even justifiable reasons to destroy closed source tech.

  Comparing to book burnings is only a false equivalence, as you’re not destroying information, you’re destroying locks that require special keys, unlike FOSS.

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So basically, getting rid of tech that spies on you and can’t be used anymore after a certain point I guess.

    There are enough people that are perfectly fine with having any phone or any device to do basic stuff like making calls. And besides, if you wanted to get rid of something there are more responsible ways to do that than “me don’t like, me smash” IMO

    And that’s not getting into brainrot AI content and manipulative machinations of social media.

    It’s very easy to not use social media and not consume brainrot AI content in my opinion. Sure, it’s getting more difficult to differentiate I guess, but it’s still not that difficult if you try even a little bit

    Comparing to book burnings is only a false equivalence

    Which is why I didn’t make that comparison, I guess you wanted to reply to @Buffalox@lemmy.world

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There are enough people that are perfectly fine with having any phone or any device to do basic stuff like making calls.

      And those people will already have at least a feature phone. The poor don’t stop eating because someone else burns gilded pork fat. In both cases because those things are needed (food, communication in modern society for basic services and work).

      It’s very easy to not use social media (in a harmful way) and not consume brainrot AI content in my opinion. Sure, it’s getting more difficult to differentiate I guess, but it’s still not that difficult if you try even a little bit

      It actually isn’t. The algorithms for most social media are designed to release dopamine, and humans tend to be social creatures. Sure, if more of society and people knew of the harms it causes, especially particular ones, then it would be easier. But right now? It’s like trying to tell people they shouldn’t smoke in the 1950s.

      Btw, we’re using social media right now. Lemmy isn’t immune, and there’s definitely bad actors here that use social media negatively. You either have to avoid All or constantly block communities.

      Which is why I didn’t make that comparison, I guess you wanted to reply to @Buffalox@lemmy.world

      Whoops yeah, that last part was for them.

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  • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Job applications for one thing. When we were young, recruiters had to physically read the letters and/or places hiring had to physically see you in person.

    Now hiring agencies just use automated tools (even before AI) and you get ghosted constantly.

    Yeah, job applications haven’t changed that much.

    It was still a dismissive black box, it’s just that the process was more manual. Instead of AI tools throwing your application away, someone skimmed it looking for a particular bullet point, if they don’t find it in 10 seconds your resume is tossed in the bin. Whether it was AI or a manager, either way you’re probably not getting a call back to let you know they tossed your application.

    Comparing to book burnings is only a false equivalence, as you’re not destroying information, you’re destroying locks that require special keys, unlike FOSS.

    I’m totally with you on this. It’s not book burning because this generation doesn’t own anything to burn in the first place. You don’t buy a movie, you “buy” a license to stream that movie for a period of time. Tragic.

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    • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah, job applications haven’t changed that much.

      It was still a dismissive black box, it’s just that the process was more manual. Instead of AI tools throwing your application away, someone skimmed it looking for a particular bullet point, if they don’t find it in 10 seconds your resume is tossed in the bin. Whether it was AI or a manager, either way you’re probably not getting a call back to let you know they tossed your application.

      The manual review though does improve your odds than an algorithm looking for keywords.

      Not to mention sometimes you got feedback of what your odds were of getting hired. If you gave someone your physical resumé, and they just laid it down in a random spot and we’re dismissive, you at least knew immediately that you should probably not expect a call back.

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      • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The manual review though does improve your odds than an algorithm looking for keywords.

        I mean… It’s a human looking for keywords…

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• GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Like a pizza cutter. It’s all edge and no point

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Destroying perfectly functional tech really bothered me too from an environmentalist standpoint. I am always trying to rescue old but working tech and trying to find a use for it or fix it up to pass on to someone in need.

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s similar to burning books IMO.
  Buying something just to destroy it will always be moronic no matter what the item is.
  It only accomplishes to make the company that makes those items make more money, so they can make even more items.

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• dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  yeah you are very likely too old to get it

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