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troed@fedia.io 5 months agoSorry, but this is wrong. They're also actively sponsoring "left wing" propaganda, to further saw discord. Depending on which group you yourself belong to, it's just easier to spot "the others".
Your article doesn’t seem to mention Russia once.
Rumors and smears are part of free speech. To the extent that right-wing trolls and their audience are actual voters, it’s essentially just a coarse form of ordinary political speech.
The extent to which a foreign government acting coverly is either creating or artificially boosting such content is scandalous.
realistically speaking our own governments are way more involved with manipulating our media than the ‘foreigners’ as people love to fearmonger about
True enough. But even a tyrannical government at least has a presumable intent of working for the betterment of its country. (Albeit through wrongheaded and small-minded means )
A.foreijgn power, especially a historical adversary and bad actor, is instead presumably working to harm or diminish us.
No, they have the intent of working for themselves. That’s it. They don’t give a shit about the country and you should never presume the ruling class of your country has your country’s best interests in mind.
Your article doesn't seem to mention Russia once.
Feel free to read any other article that does, if you somehow have managed to avoid learning about russian influence campaigns over the last decade.
You presented it as proof that Russia is supporting misinformation on the left. To be that, it has to both include all three parts of the claim – that there is disinformation on the left, that Russia is covertly supporting disinformation, and that some of the disinformation on the left was supported by Russia.
If your wife sleeps around, and I engage in casual sex, it does not necessarily follow that I slept with your wife.
A common suspicion in America is that Vladimir Putin believes that Trump as POTUS is good for Russia, and that Putin interferes with US politics with a specific goal of helping Trump.
If you have some reporting that directly links Russia to left-wing disinformation I’d love to read it. But the BBC article I read after following your link didn’t have any such link.
This is the third time I post this paper in this thread: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00207020241257635
There are plenty more. You spent more time writing your post than it takes to find them.
Maybe someone wants you to think that Russian influence campaigns are a problem and so they feed you articles.
actively
15 April 2017
Oh you think they just stopped? Did you bother to verify for yourself?
Over 2 million tweets from these accounts were collected from 24 February 2021 to 31 January 2023
Russian influence operations are weaponizing Canada's far right and the far left
Wonder if they sponsor the Canary
9point6@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Primary sources tend to disagree
Here’s a study from 2019 about it that backs up my assertion that more is conservative academic.oup.com/joc/article/69/2/168/5425470
And of that propaganda being created, that conservative inclined people are most likely to fall for it: journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/20563051231220330
There seem to be plenty of other papers that more or less reach those same conclusions with a good number of citations, but I can’t find anything really at all on Google Scholar concluding the opposite with a quick search, let alone something also credible.
The closest some papers come is saying that they try groups all over the political spectrum, as their goal is disunity ultimately, but they seemingly don’t really have any kind of continued success with misinforming those groups anywhere near as effectively. They more or less all end up concluding that most of the propaganda targets conservatives, because they’re the ones that fall for it.
OpenStars@piefed.social 5 months ago
Both sides fall for it, just not equally.
JollyG@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think one of the problems with citing that first study as evidence Russian disinfo is targeted at conservatives more than liberals is that it only studied one case, and Russian disinformation campaigns tailor their disinfo to different demographics, often through brute force/trial and error. So it is quite possible that the particular case they studied happens to be tailored to (or more successfully resonated with) conservatives, while another specific case would have resonated with liberals more thus resulting in more liberal exposure by their metrics.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Your assertion that more is conservative is a meaningless assertion in the context of this discussion.
More can be conservative on average but you don’t see an average view of the internet, you see your filter bubble, and that source backs up the original assertion that yes, Russia is targeting leftists too.
troed@fedia.io 5 months ago
Primary sources tend to agree
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00207020241257635
Might it be that you're commenting based on what you want to be true?