Comment on Poor salmon

slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  More “samun”, (/ˈsæmən/) because the last syllable turns into a “schwa”, the default unemphasized vowel sound in English.

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  • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Any English vowel can be a schwa if you’re brave enough

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In Kiwi English the “u” in “focus” and the “i” in “kit” both have the same vowel sound and they’re both roughly a “schwa”. That’s brave.

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      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        that’s breve

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  • slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    is the term called a “schwa” or does the vowel literaly turn into “schwa”? I can not tell if your’re serious.

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A schwa is a vowel sound. It’s the sound English uses for unstressed syllables. It sits right in the middle of the IPA vowel chart, which basically means it’s the easiest sound to make. Your tongue is in a central position, and your mouth isn’t open wide or closed.

      Many letters in English words tend towards being pronounced as a “schwa” when they’re not the key syllable in the word.

      For example, if you say “I gave him a present” the first ‘e’ in “present” is emphasized and the second isn’t, so the second tends to be pronounced as a “schwa”. But, if you say “I had to present the documents”, it’s the second “e” that is emphasized, and the first one turns into a schwa.

      It’s also why the English article “a” and “the” are both frequently pronounced the same way (as a schwa) despite using different vowels. The articles “a” and “the” are very rarely emphasized in a sentence, and words that aren’t emphasized have their pronunciation drift towards the easy-to-pronounce schwa.

      It’s the first syllable in “salmon” that’s emphasized, so the second isn’t really pronounced as an “o”, (whatever that means) it’s pronounced as a schwa instead.

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      • slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        ohh. so short voiceful exhaling. interesting

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• perspectiveshifting@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Been pronouncing the L up to now?

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have pronounced the L in salmon since the episode of King of the Hill where Octavio starts hanging out with Hank all the time.

    “Salmon, Hank! They out salmon in the fish tacos!”

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    • Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The 2 Angry Beavers did it first. I think it was Dagget that always pronounced the L in salmon. They lived in fear of the salmon spawn run. The salmon would tear their dam/home apart.

      And who could ever forget their #1 hit single, Beaver Fever, so smoky and sexy.

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  • slowmorella@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yeah

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