Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
Great, my downstairs neighbor has one of these things that everyone has to walk by when going in or out of the main building. Why she needs one in an apartment building with a locked main door that you have to unlock yourself for guests is a mystery to me.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 hours ago
Simple - Because she doesn’t trust the strangers living in the building any more than the strangers on the outside. I don’t blame her one bit, in my lifetime, I’ve seen countless stories of women being raped and/or murdered by other tenants and the complex 's own security.
In the olden days, before electricity, I used to be friendly with a neighbor, and she became convinced that someone was sneaking into her apartment when she was at work, and stealing her underwear and prescription meds. She took a day off because she was under the weather, and one of the maintenance guys, who was always overly-friendly, unlocked her door, and walked right in.
It turned out that he’d been warned about this before, and he was fired. But if she, or other neighbors, had Ring cameras, they would have caught on to him immediately.
IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
A camera inside her apartment would have the same results without invading the privacy of every other tenant in the building.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 hours ago
In that specific case, but most people want to identify people BEFORE they enter their promises. I’m not opening my door to any cops, for instance, unless they can slide a warrant under the door.
You are missing the point entirely. There are about a million reasonable reasons someone would want to have a doorbell camera, and they have every right to them. The owner of the camera isn’t violating your privacy, AMAZON is doing that by collecting the data from a privately-owned source who hasn’t given permission to hijack data from their device.
Don’t be mad at the tenant for protecting their safety, be mad at Amazon for exploiting that reasonable fear, encouraging people to get Ring cameras, and then stealing the data they collect.
stickly@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Is it too much to ask for a doorbell camera to operate like a doorbell? We’ve had peepholes on doors that can be opened and checked when needed for years with no problem, why do we suddenly need constant surveillance of the public commons? This is also on the owner for buying into the scare tactics.
IMO it should be flat out illegal to have any permanent camera that monitors a public space. I don’t consent to have a stalker track when I enter and leave my home, I won’t consent to have a neighbor do the same.
groet@feddit.org 16 hours ago
Are you like 200 years old?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 hours ago
Getting there.
faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
My partner is in his 40s and they didn’t have electricity until they moved to the mainland for middle school. There are still large parts of the world that don’t have electricity.
Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Fair enough. My downstairs neighbor can get a doorbell cam that records locally then.
Dojan@pawb.social 15 hours ago
Why did a maintenance guy have access to her home?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 15 hours ago
Maintenance in apartment complexes always have access to any apartment, in case of fire, overflowing bathtubs, inspections, deaths, smoke detector battery replacement, etc. They are supposed to give 24 hours notice, but the point is that a nefarious character could gain access to any apartment in the complex, if they don’t keep their master keys secure.
We had a case recently of a murder in a gated complex. A maintenance guy got obsessed by the 19 year old daughter of a resident, and eventually kidnapped, raped, and murdered her. All because he had access to the master keys. They ended up passing some law under her name. I think they have to do a better job of clearing their criminal backgrounds, which would have caught this guy. It seems like keeping the master keys under better security should be a major thing, too.
Dojan@pawb.social 14 hours ago
That’s nuts.
Like, the landlord/maintenance people here do have a master key, but it doesn’t work unless the flat is locked from the outside and set in a particular position. If you lock it from the inside, or don’t put it in the special position, they can’t access the flat.