That opens the door to new insults such as “You so fat your fat cells are the size of grapes”
mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
The 7 year thing is a myth. Howtown has a very good summary on it. 7 year myth some cells are replaced but how often depends on the cell type, some never get replaced.
When you gain weight your fat cells grow, and when you lose weight they shrink. You don’t actually gain and lose fat cells the way people think. However, the stuff in those cells could very well be old. It’s a complex system and hard to sum up and I’m only friends with the biology people from college but that’s what I understand from them.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
the stuff in those cells could very well be old.
So, losing weight, is like taking a long needed shower for your cells.
mushroommunk@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Kind of? The cells, called adipocytes, primarily store triglycerides and a few other things in a liquid form. When you lose weight that liquid gets squeezed out and used as energy, to build other chemicals your body needs, or peed straight out.
So less a shower and more getting rung out like a sponge.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Most of the weight is carbon that is breathed out actually, but metabolic water isn’t insignificant.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
My brain has to readjust to all this, very strange.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
*wrung*
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
But as my doctor explained to me, if they get big enough, they divide. Then even if you lose weight, you have fat cells hanging around who think they should be holding onto more fat than they are. So your body will want to be fat, and will enforce that with cravings.
It’s why it’s extremely hard to lose a large amount of weight and leave it off. I’m on my third major attempt now.
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
Seems like that would be an argument for liposuction as a way to supplement other weight loss because it would remove those cells.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
I’ve had the same thought. Haven’t really looked into it though.
volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’ve studied nutrition science and we talked about what you described and yes, the blunt “truth” is that liposuction is the only reliable way to really get rid of “emptied fat cells”. There are a lot of things playing into the dreaded yo yo effect but the fact that it is much easier to refill emptied cells than to make new cells via division is definitely a big factor.
(“Truth” is in “” because I dislike this term in a scientific context but english is my third language and it’s pretty late over here so I am struggling to find a better suited word)
Good luck on your weight loss journey. It is an incredibly hard and brave one to take and I admire that you are trying.
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I don’t know much about liposuction but I believe it can only be done on subcutaneous fat (just under the skin) but not the deeper intra-abdominal fat that can be the cause of fat related health problems. If you can ‘pinch’ most of your fat then it is probably subcutaneous and lipo would help to remove the excess cells.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’ve heard similar, that your body wants to keep the “norm” whatever that is. And it makes sense that any extreme weight loss, would seem, to your body, that there is a famine or something is wrong and then reset the balance back to what it was, as soon as it can.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Set point isn’t some magic thing, it’s just the fact that if you eat a consistent diet, you’ll gain/lose weight until your calories in is the same as your calories out. If you’re overweight, you’re eating more than the human body evolved to handle, so your stomach has to expand to accommodate that. When you try and lose weight, you’re usually eating less food, and so your stomach isn’t full and can cause discomfort.
Losing weight is hard, I get it. I’m working on it myself. But it’s not like your body is working against you. If perceived famine caused people to gain weight, victims of actual famines would be overweight, not skin and bones. It’s not your body against you, it’s the impulsive parts of your brain versus the rational parts.
LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Yea, but there’s more to it than that. Thyroid causes issues that cause weight to pack on, no matter what your caloric intake is, menopause causing low estrogen causes weight gain because the visceral fat around your organs, the type you can’t exercise off, makes a kinda knock off estrogen, so your body packs on weight, to try and make estrogen there. You could eat one meal a day, all healthy and still put weight on. And there’s so many more health conditions that cause weight gain. Just Genetics, even. The calories in vs calories out theory has been debunked as a singular cause. Sure, if you have no underlying health issues and you watch what you eat, focus on fibre, legumes, vegetables etc, exercise the right amount, you will lose weight, but, if you are able to do that, you are probably already thin. People who are overweight, overwhelmingly have other conditions causing issues, too.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
your taste bud’s cravings are the the fault of America’s food culture, not your body
TheRealKuni@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
¿Por qué no los dos?
incompetent@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Can you cite a reputable source to confirm this? Doesn’t seem right to me.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i mean, it’s anecdotal, but I crave things that are super unhealthy, like Rally’s fries or ice cream, and I rarely used to crave anything that has real nutritional value. Now that I’ve cut back quite a bit on those, my cravings are starting to return to more healthy options, and right now I would kill for some roasted zucchini.
in my experience, people are more likely to crave fast food and sweets because they’re literally designed to be addictive. if most people follow their cravings, they aren’t going for the things that provide nutritional benefits, they’re going for the tasty stuff