Ok, all true.
Just was hoping we could deep dive in american history but now I remember this site is still pretty shallowm
Comment on Politics in America has always been dirty. How does trump really stack up?
heavyboots@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Like an order of magnitude worse?
- No sitting president before him has been a convicted felon.
- No sitting president before him has been involved in the sheer volume of sexual scandals from assault to cheating to being implicated in possible pedophilia.
- No sitting president before him has refused to return literally boxes and boxes of classified documents as trophies (or possibly as items for sale) while storing them in extremely inappropriate ways. (This is extremely different from Biden, btw, who promptly returned a few accidentally retained documents. Trump was playing shell games with them, repeatedly swearing he had returned them all while doing things like loading them on planes to move to other locations, etc.)
- No sitting president before him has attempted to overthrow the government when they lost an election.
- The level of bribery and corruption in his administration is off the charts.
- The number of lies he tells has always been off the charts. (“I’ve never heard of Project 2025!” while having given a speech to its members and now following its plans to dismantle the federal government.)
- His department heads have all been picked to dismantle the departments they’re in. (Project 2025 again)
And then of course there is the christofascism angle, which is extremely disturbing because he definitely plans to never leave power again. He’s currently trying hard to normalize use of military force against US citizens so he can seize control of the elections to make sure they go his way.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Deestan@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If this is your reaction to a thoughful response, you are not going to find deep discussions anywhere.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
So fucking sensitive
HarneyToker@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
This was your opportunity to put your counter arguments in about how shady the rest of American politics is/was. However, you resorted to name calling and generalized BS. Why not engage in an actual discussion instead of folding?
vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 hours ago
You’re such a pathetic little whiny fuckin baby omg
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 9 hours ago
Sir, this isn't KiwiFarms. Please go be an edgy tryhard there.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
Lol, this is edge? Dont cut yourself on some butter.
heavyboots@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
I mean I don’t have the amount of time necessary to go into how dirty past presidents have been and I certainly don’t have the knowledge at my fingertips. But also, I think the stuff like Watergate and Monica Lewinski is barely a blip on the chart when you put Trump on it too. Which is not to say I condone the behavior of those presidents or seek to normalize their behavior. Just that from a numerical perspective it barely registers.
Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Honestly, Im not asking you specifically but you were contributed the most thought provoking post of the thread and typically thats where thought ends on these boards.
Ambiance6195@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Whoa you’re gonna scare people with those facts!
Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 9 hours ago
Facts? What are those?
There are 75 Million brain-washed idiots out there who we know, that can give a shit less about facts. Those people voted Trump in in hopes he'll - get this - lower egg prices. Now I know that's part of the reason but it was a large part. The same egg prices Trump would later tell everyone to shut up about, for real.