In my experience there is a huge gap between those that are smart and enthusiastic and those that are just average. I consider myself part of the former group and I can’t blame coworkers for just doing their job and go home. But it means the gap just widens.
How much is it that these companies don’t want to train. I have a time believing your job is so advanced and technical you couldn’t find someone qualified at any point.
the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Average in my mind is what the hiring process should be looking for. I would think the average one is someone who gets the job done.
calliope@retrolemmy.com 7 hours ago
This has been my experience as well, since I started in community college in the early 2000s.
There is an unfortunately large difference in tech between a person who has an innate interest and someone who is checking the boxes to get and keep a job.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Both would get the job done wouldn’t they?
ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
But one you can underpay and abuse because they are excited. The other has a lot better idea of what they’ll accept and will leave when it’s not worth it anymore.
calliope@retrolemmy.com 6 hours ago
Not in the same way… which is the issue.
It’s a skilled profession, so ideally you want someone who is more skilled, and the person who has interest is more skilled.
It works similarly with other skilled professions like carpenters.
Kissaki@feddit.org 4 hours ago
Depends on what you see as “the job”. I would prefer many projects to be better than they currently are, both from the end user and the developer side.
When I think about the projects I have seen, you need very good people to clean up technical debt in a viable and sustainable way, as well as develop in a way that is sustainable and maintainable in a good way long term.
If you don’t have very good people, code quality devolves quickly, whereas the negative impact is felt a bit later, and at that point, it’ll be hard for most people to clean up and improve the project in a reasonable fashion, and it usually never happens.
The skill, experience, and being able to grasp what needs to be grasped gap is one thing, the time people are in a project or firm is another.
In the end, it depends on what the job is. Sure, most apps work. But there are so many applications that annoy and hinder me as a user. Even as a user, it’s a mess. I’m sure the dev team doesn’t have it much better on those projects.
With very good people acting as mentors and guidance, others can certainly get the job done, and contribute in productive ways. Most importantly, they learn and improve significantly.
frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Training people up would be a great idea when you have the attitude that you’re going to keep working there for 30 years. Those old “company man” jobs are all but gone. If you stay at a job 5 years, people start to wonder if there’s something wrong with you. That’s just starting to be enough time for training to be worth the investment.
If tech was unionized, and the union had the attitude that they are basically a trade guild that will build up your skills, that would change things.