Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
That mod is also literally the only active user in that group. Your post is the most attention it’s ever got.
Comment on User "threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works" is banning users for downvoting his posts.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
That mod is also literally the only active user in that group. Your post is the most attention it’s ever got.
Coupable@lemmy.world 3 days ago
And this is the second time in just over a day that I’ve seen moderators abusing the ability to monitor how people vote.
This behaviour undermines good faith participation. Users should not be afraid of copping bans for using the downvote button as they feel is appropriate.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 days ago
As a moderator, I can see who votes on what and how in my community. But it is not my job to really do anything with that information (except if I notice a brigading attack / vote manipulation, then I might keep an eye on users for that). So I don’t even look at them. The community hasn’t been brigaded yet, and since its a moderately low traffic community, it would be pretty obvious if that ever happened.
But votes are information that normal users should definitely not be able to see at all. Eventually, sooner than later most likely, it will lead to “User X voted ‘wrong’ on Y” posts. You and I both know Lemmy users cannot be trusted to be mature enough to not do that kind of Fecal Flinging, especially from the comfort of online anonymity, and once that starts it’s not going to stop.
Users upvote or downvote posts for ten million different reasons. Nobody should feel like they can’t vote how they want on a post for fear of a moderator ban or other users yelling at them. If they are engaging in vote manipulation, its a different story, but people doing that are not only using a single account, so they know what they are doing and should expect nevative consequences. I’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying, just adding on that beyond a moderator’s ethical duty regarding (not) taking action for vote activity, normal users should also be held to the same ethical duty.
Skavau@piefed.social 2 days ago
Yes and no.
There are accounts who genuinely do go around downvoting en masse without any contributions. When I was growing my community, I caught about 5 accounts - some with no post history, and no contribution history on my community doing it. They also had a long mod log history of bans for doing it elsewhere.
So I banned them because they kept burying new posts. That is my right.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 days ago
That’s weird, what topic is so controversial someone would put in that kind of effort?
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Hey I just wanna pop in and say I crossposted your post about lemmyusa over to power tripping bastards on dbzero the other day, and we actually had a mod from there come on and discuss things.
I think its a bit more complex than just… them clearly doing mod abuse or manipulation.
From their POV, they were basically getting hit with a mass wave of downvotes, as well as some genuinely unnaceptable harassment… and they basically panicked and went into lockdown mode.
Maybe you would be interested in adding to that discussion?
lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/53271052
Also, just… in general, the whole point of the ye power trippin bastards comm is to report and discuss potential mod/admin abuse scenarios, in case you’d maybe like to post stuff there yourself…
You … seem to be on something of a tear of call outs, so, maybe you’d be interested.
Anyway, more specifically relevant to this threelon person… yeah i dont find this behavior surprising, they are obviously a massive elon stan and their personality is collapsing as it becomes harder and harder to deny that, even in just a purely technical sense, leaving politics as far aside as possible… yeah elon is actually just a con artist fradulent idiot.
verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Thanks for the context and for cross posting, this is turning into an interesting discussion across a wider variety of skill sets. Skill sets, as in the following: power users, people who don’t like mods and have done it before, people who have never modded but know exactly how it should be done, basic end users who are former mods.
Coupable@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hey Verity, I support your right to do this (note: those are all my comments), even if you don’t!
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Have a great day, and don’t shy away from that downvote button <3
ech@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
It’s also blatant vote manipulation in keeping their personal content from being lower on the front page. Ban all the downvoters and suddenly your posts look very popular!
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Yeah on closer look it seems like this particular baby strawberry is also a mod on nearly 50 other groups across more than 10 instances. Not good.