How do students having phones help in a shooting?
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HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Kids spend far too much time in school on their phones. This is simply true.
Counter point to this tho: Kids go to school knowing a shooting can happen at any time and need to have their phones for if that happens.
I can’t support restricting phones before we restrict firearms.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Is this a serious question? Replace “shooting” with any other emergency.
cdf12345@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
you’re joking right?
Calling police, calling parents, etc.
slaughterhouse@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
What are the police gonna do? Wait outside until the shooter runs out of bullets, then go in to finish the job?
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Cops are worthless pieces of shit, 99% of the time. And Uvalde PD especially if that’s what you’re referencing.
Although, the release of the evidence that they did that, (which the GOP and UvaldePD fought tooth and nail to keep the footage secret), resulted in the following school shooting (the first transgender one the right obsesses over) had ended quickly after the pigs arrived.
Filming their incompetencies has an effect. Not much of one but an effect.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Police can be called by the teacher that’s also in the room. They never come in time anyways. Calling parents just reduces situational awareness by distracting the panicked kids.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Oh ok I didn’t realize you had survived multiple school shootings. Sorry you live in america.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
It’s nice to be able to call your parents when you’re bleeding out in the school atrium.
HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Calling/texting 911
Letting authorities know where they and/or the shooter is in the building
Even filming and documenting it is important after cunts like Alex Jones convinced an entire political party that all school shootings are fake, Jewish and Illuminati psyops to take away their guns.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Sort of agree?
Yeah, guns must be banned completely in the US, fully agree, but phones in class too. Waiting with one for the other won’t make anything better
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’m assuming firearms are also restricted in NYC schools.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Yeah but the thing with mass shooters is that they don’t give a fuck what the law says.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
No, they don’t. But anyone who could smuggle in a phone could smuggle in a gun.
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Yeah, and again: the thing with mass shooters is that they don’t give a fuck what the law says.
They’re not going to go through the phone checkpoint, they’re just gonna open fire. This would not stop a mass shooting.
ksigley@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is the answer.
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 month ago
When I was in school every room had a landline phone that could make calls both within the building and externally. Is this not the case now? What advantage does it give for everyone to have a phone? Wouldn’t that just create more variables, chaos and panic to deal with during an actual emergency?
biotin7@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Maybe tell teachers to teach better ?? Especially math & science teachers.
oplkill@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Firstly pay them enough
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why don’t they just have rules like we did. Have your phone out in class and you get a lunch detention, next time a detention, 3rd time sent to the office with a recommendation for suspension.
Kids have to learn to be responsible… They will have their phone on them everywhere else in life, like work. Learning to be responsible about it seems like education.
cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
I fervently agree with your hypothesis, but i dont think you know what it is like inside public schools these days. “Shut up bitch” is the likely response to enforcing that lol
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pick up the phone call the security guard to come escort them to the office for a 30 day suspension. Happens again expelled.
You can start day one with a message on the board that you have a zero tolerance policy for disrespect
The teachers are there to educate not parent. If the kids aren’t afraid of getting in trouble then it’s the guardians problem. Public education is something that is supposed to be available so kids can learn, and we have turned it into a place to dump your dependents so they can go to work apparently.
pup_atlas@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
So the solution is to start from a place of distrust? If you treat children like they’ve already done something wrong, what reason do they have left to behave? It also seems pretty damaging to their development to teach them that being treated this way be default is good or right.
If it’s a problem, sure, take them away. But not even giving them the chance to show some level of responsibility early, even if it’s likely they might not do it, is both lazy, and developmentally damaging.