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• shani66@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  …where do you think most democracies came from?

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  • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They must’ve been… Immaculately concieved.

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  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not from murdering people who speak their opinions.

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    • HikingVet@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What do do think Civil wars are then?

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      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Those aren’t about murdering fellow citizens because of what they say.

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• Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tell that to France.

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  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah well that’s a better example than the American revolution anyway, but I guess I view revolution against government as being a little different than murder of a citizen exercising their right to free speech. The French revolution also was fighting to establish a democracy, wherein people could freely exchange ideas and contribute to the shape of government. Democracy doesn’t work if people murder each other instead of discussing things and using your vote to shape government. Violence must be prohibited and overwhelmingly condemned or it devolves into a zero sum game. This isn’t a victory for the left, this is a loss for society, further degradation of our republic.

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• Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution

  Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The irony of using the American revolution to justify murdering people for speaking their opinion…

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    • Cypher@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You claimed it is impossible to murder your way into democracy, I gave you an example of people murdering their way into democracy.

      Shifting the goalposts to be about ‘muh freeze peaches’ is weak.

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      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No your example is just really really bad

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• morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The infrastructure for democracy is already there. It’s just been shelved temporarily by the current admin.

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  • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ideological assassinations are a huge step in the wrong direction. Once you open the door to violence in place of speech and exchange of ideas, it’s a bad place. Everyone should condemn this. Do you honestly believe it’s a good idea to start killing people? Who is next? It’s not always going to be people you disagree with, and ANY murders need to be condemned.

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    • morphballganon@mtgzone.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is just the trolley problem. If you can save 5 people by killing 1, is it correct to do so, or take no action?

      Well, we’ve got lots of people taking no action, and look where that’s got us.

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      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You don’t get to just kill people that you suspect are evil. This isn’t some complicated ethical dilemma.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are correct. The last several times it was a dem. We have protesred and taljed enough. Things only het worse for both sides. I hope they kill them all.

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      • OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dude you are sick

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