Comment on Google admits the open web is in ‘rapid decline’

• Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  IRC is still there. The user numbers just aren’t that great anymore 😒 I fucking hate discord and what it did and how it took over. And also, of course, murican.

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  • underscores@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hate that everyone fucking uses discord for everything, discord when I’m using it is strictly to game and for online game related activities.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People are just clueless and lazy, and take the easiest way “that everyone else does too”. And here we are. Recently had to join one…and was asked for a phone number before being allowed to enter. Lol. Yeah sure. Guess I won’t join then 😐

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  • TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lots of “muricans” hate discord too

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sure sure, you’re not all idiots. Wasn’t meant this way. Just that, on top of being shit, being murican is another no-go for an app.

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• mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This makes me think that a big part of the solution is some sort of very low barrier to entry guide or product for self-hosting. Like something even a non-technical person can do. Imagine if it became the norm to have a little always-on device that serves up your personal website, instead of social media accounts…

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  • eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We need a startup to just make and try to sorta standardize a mini pc product pre-installed with a proxmox-like setup with an easy web interface and self-hosted solutions pre installed. 5-10 apps for main internet service needs like email, social media, content hosting/publishing and personal media libraries.

    Give it a cute name like “Web-Pal”, keep it open and Customizable for powerusers, watch the internet become a better place while you’re the household name for devices that are as essential as a router.

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    • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think this is a really good idea. A baby server for every privacy concerned house. Make it simple enough that customizing software features is like putting together Legos, but leave in the potential for complexity as some users grow.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you could sell this for $500 or less you have yourself a customer

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    • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Exactly my thinking. You could even have some sort of containerized environment so that people can easily just download and run containerized apps for various things. A podman image for your music server, for your photo hosting… almost like apps but less proprietary and less closed source

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      • eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yup. I really wish we had an open source alternative to proxmox that used containers under the hood. Would make customizing and mounting external volumes much easier too.

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    • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Great idea. From a nerd 😁

      But who do you think would be the target demographic? Critical users, that don’t want to use major crap but are also not suited for doing it all by themselves, either due to skill, time, money or a combination thereof?

      I wouldn’t think that group is significantly large. And definitely not large enough to seriously put a dent in the major crap apps.

      Better than nothing, but probably not worth investing in such a project. Sadly so, I might add.

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      • eldebryn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Platforms keep getting shittier and more exploitative, while government thirst for control with things like Chat Control, OSA and whatever the US is doing.

        The more we see of that the easier it becomes to market a “your internet services in a box” to a layman.

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  • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Considering that many don’t even know anymore what a website actually is, or domains (especially TLDs that are not .com or <insert local one>)…

    Also take into account that people are lazy (not meant condescending). Using the major shit is easy, “everyone else does too!” and technologically challenged people can use it.

    Even IF selfhosted XYZ would be as easy as downloading something (it already starts to be “too complicated” for many) and executing it, it probably wouldn’t happen.

    I, personally, fear for the future of the web. I’ve seen the peak of the web and its constant accelerated decline since.

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    • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah I know more than a few people fitting that description. But I do believe things can turn around. It’s less likely to make converts of people who already have that mentality, but things can resurge among new people and I think there’s a real movement there with tech literacy.

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      • Dyskolos@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I sure hope so, yet am not as optimistic as you 😑

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  • eronth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I love the idea, but until stuff simplifies significantly that’s simply not happening. I’m a moderately technical person and all the self hosting options are such a chore. Even simply looking up info about them can sometimes be harder than installing and starting the centralized option.

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• netuno@lemmy.cif.su ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  the difference between Git and GitHub is similar to the difference between porn and Pornhub.

  🤣

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• smiletolerantly@awful.systems ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope forgejo’s federation efforts come along. Being able to host projects on my own instance, yet receive contributions without having to allow people to register on my instance, would give me the push to completely abandon Github.

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• grrgyle@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I worked at a place that had self-hosted git and IRC for internal messaging. Was great!

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