Comment on Time to bash Americans again

• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels

  Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.

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  • modus@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because a gun is cheaper than mental healthcare.

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    • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It's more than just mental healthcare. American society is just broken in so many ways.

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• Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Still shows the problem is the Americans rather than the guns

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not a dumb comparison because it shows that in a healthy society, people don’t try to murder each other even given the chance. The fact that Americans buy guns for “freedom” is a symptom, not the root cause of all issues.

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    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Also crazy as they don’t really have that much freedom. They’re slaves to capitalism.

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  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.

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    • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.

      No bro, I don’t want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.

      I keep my shit in my safe, that’s it. It’s not a personality.

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Same. Very few people know I own one and have a concealed license.

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      • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        how do you use it in a home invasion in the middle of the night if it’s locked up and unloaded?

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    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      honest question: then why do you own one?
      I get self defense, of course, but doesn’t the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture? or am I missing something?

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      • thermal_shock@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No, you’ll know gun culture when you see it. The people that put the stupid stickers all over the car, the firearm brands, the calibers, stuff like that.

        Like the other commenter you would never know that I even own a gun unless we were pretty damn close.

        I don’t really have a solid answer for you. I think it started growing up where my dad had guns, rifles, in the army but he was super protective he wouldn’t show them to us, he wouldn’t let us see them, he wouldnt teach us about them so I was just genuinely curious. So when I moved out that was the first thing I bought.

        And I hated the gun laws here, you can buy and sell guns just like you’re selling a car just do a bill of sale. There’s no background check for secondhand guns.

        It doesn’t really ever come out of lockup unless we’re camping or going on a long road trip. I haven’t carried it in years and I think my license might even be expired at this point. I’m not scared, I don’t carry it around to intimidate anybody. But I guess the fascination has just always been there since it was withheld growing up.

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• godfish@lemy.lol ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.

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  • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    and when they had guns, they were highly trained. They didn’t carry them loaded in their purses so their toddlers could play with them.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

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    • godfish@lemy.lol ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah it is their choice.

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      • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So that’s part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.

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    • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      all 37 of them

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• iridebikes@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Too late now unfortunately. The people who’d need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.

    It’s media, education and the political system that need to change. It won’t.

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  • MeThisGuy@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    back to 1776

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