we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show
Erm, wut?
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abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
Because we don’t have regular mass shootings in schools because we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world…or the USA in 1792.
we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show
Erm, wut?
In America you can bypass gun checks in most checks if you buy your gun from a Gun show.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 21 hours ago
It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 hours ago
We “tend to turn a blind eye to it” because “cultural problem” is primarily used as a racist dog whistle.
If your intention was to point at the underlying cause, you need to be talking about systematic impoverization, lack of generational wealth, devaluation of labor, etc.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Being American is not exclusive to black people and thus American culture is a country-wide problem in relation to guns.
modus@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Because a gun is cheaper than mental healthcare.
arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
It's more than just mental healthcare. American society is just broken in so many ways.
Ibuthyr@feddit.org 6 hours ago
Yup. I sometimes travel (or travelled for that matter… I’m not going back to that shit hole) to the US and basically everyone there is living an act. It’s so weird and artificial and it all boils down to an “I’m the best and deserve everything, all the others can go fuck themselves” attitude. This is highly toxic and can easily lead to violence. Pair that with how they breathe the most toxic form of capitalism and you have a recipe for the shit show that is the USA. I’m really sorry for all the cool guys over there. There certainly are some fine people, but the majority is completely lost.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 hours ago
It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
Still shows the problem is the Americans rather than the guns
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
It’s not a dumb comparison because it shows that in a healthy society, people don’t try to murder each other even given the chance. The fact that Americans buy guns for “freedom” is a symptom, not the root cause of all issues.
dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 19 hours ago
Also crazy as they don’t really have that much freedom. They’re slaves to capitalism.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
That’s why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.
No bro, I don’t want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.
I keep my shit in my safe, that’s it. It’s not a personality.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 17 hours ago
honest question: then why do you own one?
I get self defense, of course, but doesn’t the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture? or am I missing something?
godfish@lemy.lol 21 hours ago
In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
and when they had guns, they were highly trained. They didn’t carry them loaded in their purses so their toddlers could play with them.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.
godfish@lemy.lol 19 hours ago
Yeah it is their choice.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 17 hours ago
all 37 of them
iridebikes@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
Too late now unfortunately. The people who’d need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.
It’s media, education and the political system that need to change. It won’t.
MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 17 hours ago
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