I knew it! It’s the sinister musliamics doing all the murders! Pure as white snow Swedish sweet baby girls could never do a crime.
as hard as it is to accept, a lot of the issues were imported by immigration and a failure to make sure that the immigrants get integrated into society. from what i know, there's a pretty deep divide there, with immigrants being disadvantaged in society and the swedes themselves feeling overwhelmed by a flood of immigrants. Sadly that's a good substrate for gang violence and yeah, like you said, it's stupid.
Thordros@hexbear.net 3 days ago
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
Get some reading comprehension. Its a failure to integrate the immigrants, which is as much an error by the natives as the immigrants. This creates a parallel society, where a lot of people traumatized by war and crime are left to fend for themselves in a society that doesn't give them the means to work inside of that society. Those immigrants didn't have the education or knowledge to get good jobs, and the swedish society failed in giving them the therapy and education they would have needed to succeed. The gang fighters now are their children, mixed with the underclass of the native swedes.
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 days ago
Nah dude you’re just racist.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 days ago
No, the race is not the issue, the trauma and the missing knowledge (cultural and technological) made it very hard for the immigrants to secure jobs and create a stable home - there was simply not enough support from the native population for them. If you sit at home, cant get work and only get financial support when you would need therapy and learning materials, then your children will probably not have a stable home. This is also reflected in the crime statistics - higher education radically reduced the chance to become a victim or perpetrate a violent crime.
Murder rates (victims) for 20-24 y.o. people who have 2 immigrants as parents are more 10 times higher than the national average. The statistics for the perpetrators look similar. The race is not very relevant, this would have happened with any population coming from a wartorn country with low to none education - if you aren't literate, there are not many jobs you can do in a first world country; if you don't know how to use a computer, you can pretty much only work stuff like warehouse worker or bouncer.
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 days ago
Get some reading comprehension
Is always the first thing a prickly redditor says when they write something stupid, and someone comes along and comprehends it
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
>account less than a day old
>it’s immigrants fault
yeah, alright bestie
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I mean, I know it’s not popular but Hitler had a legitimate point… /S
Gross
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
You see this is the problem. In real life, two things are often true at the same time. Like not all immigrants being criminals but immigrants committing violent crimes at a higher rate than the native population. I mean if you are gonna claim that the cause isn’t immigration then at least provide a counter reason. The optics are not great statistically:
bra.se/…/2025-07-04-homicide-victims-and-perpetra…
journals.sagepub.com/doi/…/08862605241311611
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Yes, actually, I unironically agree with your strawman of someone else's position: people have a fundamental right to freedom of movement.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Sure, but countries and societies and communities in general also have a right to exclude and to generally not allow people they don’t want or that they cannot accommodate into their groups. Strong safety nets means a need to carefully manage resources.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
Yeah, that was my point. The asylum system in Sweden was very permissive, but left the immigrants stranded. Those coming into the land did not have the education or skills that were needed in sweden, and there weren't enough programs to treat PTSD and educate those coming into the country. That means you have a lot of traumatized people sitting around without jobs. Those Gangs now are the second or third generation of immigrants that are still trapped in this limbo, getting traumatized by their disillusioned and STILL NOT therapied parents.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
i did not say it's the fault of the immigrants, its a failure to integrate them, which places the blame on both sides. It's a fact that a lot of immigrants came into sweden, which was a nice thing from the swedes, but then the immigrants weren't given the same chances in society the natives had. I am not a nazi apologist, get some reading comprehension.
I just switched over from db0 ( https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/a_wild_mimic_appears ).
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I can’t find where I called you one.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 days ago
you insinuated it, and i dont want to be put in that corner. i'm pretty left wing and pro immigration, but that immigration must be coordinated and supplemented by therapy and education - both mandatory. Asylum is important, but the integrity of the social fabric is paramount.