Comment on It's been downhill since 2020
wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks agoYou may not have been paying close attention. Obama was astoundingly better than Trump, but invasive spying on citizens was allpwed to remain legal under his watch, and he extended what was allowed. Drone striking questionable targets started under him as well. There’s more, but those two are the highlights usually brought up.
Trump did more drone strikes in his first term than Obama did in both his terms. And that is only of the strikes we know. At one point trump declared that strikes dont need to be reported and they didn’t count the number of strikes afterward.
Biden actually fully ended drone strikes… and he did it quietly without much fanfare.
Drone striking questionable targets
if you want to bring up warcrimes, the world has never been normal, especially not the US, they’ve been up to some heinious shit since before we were born
since before we were born
Yeah since they invaded and genocided the americas.
I think in 2010 or so someone said that if you were US Marine and were involved in every single action that the USMC took part in, you would take part in around 2 events every year.
But he spoke well and smiled a lot, especially when fake-drinking that Flint water. What a hero.
I remember this. This was a turning point. That and the bailouts.
Bailouts said, “I’m for the rich.” Flint said, “fuck the poor.”
Bailouts started with GWB.
Handouts to the rich (aka “bailouts”) are a major foundation of the casino economy. No beginning and no end under capitalism.
Not possible. Handsome man. Beautiful family.
Right, Obama didn't snap his fingers and fix every problem in the world or country, but it really felt like we were finally getting to a point where we had a new liberal voting coalition which would start to push US politics left, so that we could finally unwind a lot of those underlying legacy issues.
Fixing the core issues which created this "obligate imperialism" in the first place were never going to be fixed in the span of one decade, but Obama arguably set us up to grind out more progress in the next administration.
That's why this whole thing is so frustrating. We were on the path to a supreme court majority and burying a lot of old school conservative ideas in the coming decades, and now we are farther away than ever, because so many people can't see the long game.
I think part of the issue is that after winning on the platform of “change”, Democrats veered hard into “establishment status quo”. They won so hard that most people don’t even recall the bad parts of the Obama presidency at all (the point of my last comment, that it wasn’t all sunshine and roses), and then threw that lead in the trash.
They had a chance with Sanders, but threw away an absurd amount of public goodwill by very openly pushing him out of the running in favor of Clinton. That effectively left Trump as the only candidate carrying the “change” flag, and a lot of people were too dumb to see he was full of shit.
When Democrats had a chance again, they went with another “establishment safe” choice and only won with Biden due to an immense outcry against Trump. Then they lost again because they wouldn’t platform someone people were willing to get out to vote for.
If we get out of this shitshow, I’ll be very interested in what history says about the last few presidential races.
nexguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The worst the obama administration got was a typical couple of weeks of the Trump administration. It is so much worse now it’s unthinkable out could have gotten this bad when looking from the perspective of 2015.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Your mistake is viewing trump not as the obvious fash continuation of the state/capitalism but as some kind of aberration.
nexguy@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Trump is a unique magical monster. There isn’t anyone else that can act the way he does. He has a personality disorder that cannot be copied by any average intelligent person. There isn’t anyone else with near that type of wealth and social immaturity. No other adult has ever acted like he does that didn’t have a mental disorder.
Others try to copy him but are easy to see through as they cannot bring themselves to act like he would. Ramaswamy tried but is just too mature and of normal intelligence. You need a child(with a disorder) in an adult body with 100% total and complete confidence in itself. A complete narcissist.
There has never been anyone like him before as anyone with his type of childlike behavior would have been dismissed.
ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
I’d like to introduce you to Andrew Jackson…