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KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Well well well. Isn't it the real reason the west supports the genocide. By sending money there you can do "research" without having to worry about pesky stuff like privacy or human rights
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
The more things change, the more they stay the same
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
As if anybody in the Silicon Valley worried about privacy and human rights.
yucandu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
the west supports the genocide
You mean America. The rest of us are against this and have made policy moves against Israel.
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Lip service, really.
yucandu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
No, policy moves. Sanctions. Freezing bank accounts. Banning arms sales. Don’t buy into the anti-West propaganda.
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
Seriously dude, you think people are stupid? The last two years didn't exist?
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
The only source I found about "Freezing bank account" is The Conversation (case in point about the lip service lmao)
https://theconversation.com/eu-sanctions-against-israel-heres-whats-on-the-table-260982
An arms embargo against Israel also appears unlikely, largely because Germany and Italy are, along with the US, Israel’s main suppliers of arms. Some European countries, including France, Spain and the UK, have either stopped the supply of weapons or suspended export licenses, but their contributions represent less than 0.1% of Israel’s total arms imports.
If saying european governements are complicit with a genocide is AnTiWesT ProPagAnDa, then yes. Fuck the west.
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
The responsibility of america is undeniable ofc they're the main offender. But Germany still use israeli tech.
https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-secretly-bought-nso-pegasus-spyware/a-59113197
I think it's at least part of the reason why they're so stubbornly supporting israel, at least as much as the official wahwah about the genocide they did 80 years ago.
yucandu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Germany still use israeli tech.
That article is from 2021. This is a few weeks ago:
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH
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hector@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
Oh? Remind me again how many countries have even an arms embargo against Israel? Or they have any sort of penalties against them outside of completely symbolic actions done well past the time they should have been? How many of those countries is it a crime to criticize Israel in? The UK and Germany at a minimum.
yucandu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Germany and the UK are the latest two that have issued arms embargos against Israel, however considering less than 0.1% of Israel’s arms come from outside America, they have little power or influence there.
How many of those countries is it a crime to criticize Israel in? The UK and Germany at a minimum.
Zero. It is not a crime to criticize Israel in either the UK or Germany. The BBC just published an article accusing them of genocide. You are spreading misinformation.
Who benefits from this misinformation?
hector@lemmy.today 4 weeks ago
It is in effect against the law to criticize Israel in Germany and now the uk. It is against the law to protest in the UK in effect.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
The US deserves the vast majority of the blame here along with Israel of course. The truth is, for many in Germany including those at the highest levels of power are if anything jealous to be missing out on the colonialism and genocide.
German Chancellor Friedrich Merz on Wednesday defended his characterization of Israel’s airstrikes on Iran as “dirty work,” saying his remarks received widespread support despite some criticism.
Speaking to reporters after meeting with state premiers in Berlin, Merz stood firmly behind his earlier comments that Israel was doing necessary “dirty work” for Western nations through its military actions against Iran’s nuclear program.
kreskin@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
France, Britain, Germany. All as bad as the US.
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
[deleted]yucandu@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I mean countries, their national governments. America is the only country that officially supports Israel. Every other country in the West has publicly criticized them, sanctioned them, banned arms sales to them. Including Germany and UK.
choochooMF@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Then why are those countries also arresting pro-Palestinian protesters?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Gaza is the future for America.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Exactly. It’s the canary in the coalmine.
KIKILOVE@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
I sure hope nobody's carpet bombed.
Like never again
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
I mean, USA would probably have a better society were it carpet-bombed and then rebuilt. Or at least were it to experience a big war on its territory. Like, despite their flaws, many of the EU countries, and many others. Many of your problems are from misunderstanding dignity and strength ; war teaches you to respect the weak and to understand that it’s a sacrifice to be strong. Unfortunately that means a lot of murder, and to do a lot of murder, you pay with ever more murder. So I don’t want for that to happen, but at the same time I’m not sure if there’s even any other way to teach these things.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 weeks ago
This is how I see it as a US citizen. Our violence is boomeranging hard which ok I don’t wish it on others but yes absolutely this is the future of the US.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
You know, for those of us who are not Americans, such statements sound completely devoid of empathy, as if something could only worry you if it “were the future for America”. And it really seems a pattern. It’s as if any crime were only real for you all there if it were somehow directed against America. I’m not even talking about being tone deaf, it’s just really strange how American think.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Only enough empathy for 330M people?
You sound like a real grade-A asshole.
film@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
“you all” Nice.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 weeks ago
Don’t take it literally.