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The last I read, de minimis still applied. I didn’t know until now that was done with.

As an avid collector of vinyl records: FUCK! I’ve got no problem sending $50 to a European artist who’s selling a limited run of records out of their living room. Hell, if it’s an artist I really like, I’ll spend $70. I’m not about to spend $70 and the artist get half of it.

Spending ludicrous amounts of cash of 12-inch pieces of plastic is totally fine with me, but I want my money going to the artist who’s making the music I love, not a government I voted against.

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mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

The last I read, de minimis still applied. I didn’t know until now that was done with.

You can blame companies like wish.com for that one. Their entire business model was built around exploiting de minimis to never pay any taxes. Rather than importing a single shipping container valued above the de minimis amount, they list it as like 10000 individual items, each under the de minimis limit. It was overwhelming port authorities who didn’t have the manpower to handle that much paperwork for what should have been listed as a single shipment.

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humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’ll spend $70. I’m not about to spend $70 and the artist get half of it.

You’re spending too much time listening to Trump/media apologists for Trump. The America hating foreigners don’t pay the tariffs. If the artist you are giving $70 to, is shipping from a country with 25% tariffs, then US Customs, if foreign Post office did not collect US tariffs (all of them are refusing), or disagrees with the value/amount collected, then they will add anywhere between 25% of the missing value or $200 (tariffs on $800 value as penalty for not complying with US law), and YOU NEED TO PAY to collect the package.

Artist got the $70. They won’t ship if they have to pay the tariffs. You pay the tariffs if they don’t.

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- surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  If the person in the US is only willing to pay 70, then the artist will get less than 70.
  
  Sure, the American pays the tariff. That’s not the point. The point is that this person wants to spend X total and wants most of that X to end up with the artist. And that doesn’t happen if they have to spend half of X to pay for the tariff.
  
  The point of saying “the American pays the tariff” isn’t to say that the seller makes the same amount. It’s to emphasize that the seller won’t absorb that cost, which is the lie Trump is selling.
  
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  - humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Considering the typical ebay listing, price is payment to be received. Shipping and tarrifs are extra to “weird jurisdictions”. I get that OP is willing to offer artist/collector $70, but the seller wants that $70, and shipping somewhere human is preferred. The chaos of US policy is that they are telling all foreign countries to collect tariffs for them, which is not at all how customs/tariffs have ever worked globally ever before. US’s fucking job to collect tariffs. No one is complying with absurdity.
    
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ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It ended 8/29

No more Lego pick a brick! Way more money for temu bullshit, if they even still ship here! Etc

This is where American consumerism will really start to feel the squeeze. The prices of all that stuff had gone up because of tariffs related to manufacturing costs but now direct tariffs on shipments will either block it or cost consumers.

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- fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The only good thing about this is hopefully slowing down the disposal clothing fad from Temu.
  
  If this had to happen, I really wish there was a reasonable DM, even $50, and then a requirement to not split shipments to stop business import abuse.
  
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  - ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    There are many good things about this, American consumerism is out of control
    
    We discuss climate change and how “companies are the worst offenders” but what drives those companies? American consumerism
    
    Importing fast fashion, cheap plastic bullshit, other nonsense in plastic packaging, etc (much of it produced in countries that still utilize very dirty fossil fuel chains) ultimately funds and drives significant demand to keep it going and expand.
    
    Also puts huge demand on fuel for international shipping of dumb bullshit.
    
    Next thing to do would be to further reduce fuel demands by limiting air travel and consumer fuel usage but Trump isn’t going to invest in public transport, obviously. This is only a byproduct of his idiocy. After that would be to address concrete and other building material demand/suburban sprawl. Although the time to do this was 20 years ago
    
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  - mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The problem is big businesses like Temu can bulk ship and still only pay a certain %.
    
    But it will ruin small businesses who do only small shipments and will now see a flat fee that may be half or more the value of the good.
    
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    BlueBockser@programming.dev ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Bulk shipping requires storage and logistics infrastructure. Either way Temu and the likes will also be hit by increased costs, though I can’t say if the impact is comparable.
    
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- corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Not only that, but no more pick-a-brick in Canada too! Why does my nephew have to suffer because Trump is a dink?
  
  (We’ve tried maybe suggesting he not leave tiny Lego walkie talkies and lightsabers around for the dog to process - like a lab test but not a Labrador - but that’s proven unworkable)
  
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