Comment on Kick faces possible $49 M fine after French streamer Jean Pormanove dies on air

• Rothe@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Salut maman, Comment tu vas ? Coincé pour un moment avec son jeu de mort, avait-il déclaré. Ça va trop loin. J’ai l’impression d’être séquestré avec leur concept de merde. J’en ai marre, je veux me barrer, l’autre il veut pas, il me séquestre”. ("Hi Mom, how are you doing? Stuck for a moment with his death game, he said. It's going to be Too far. I feel like I'm sequestered with their concept of Shirt. I'm sick of it, I want to get out, the other one he wants Don't, he's sequestering me.")

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  • Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just a nitpick, “jeu de mort” would never be translated as “death game”. In this context “de mort” would be an intensifier like “fucking” or “damned”.

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• _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Uh, what’s does that matter? Is it ok to stream shit like that if it’s simulated?

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  • Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Should we not be able to watch Reservoir Dogs because there’s simulated torture in it?

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    • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like that. That's a good strawman. You compared a Kick stream focused on and containing only torture that literally killed a person to an artistic form of expression, a movie that was screened at Cannes and won many awards and is ranked second on the list of the Sundance Film Festival's Top 10 films of All Time.

      Obviously, I don't think you're a big enough idiot to have meant that seriously, it was clearly satirical.

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      • Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s a good summary of my point, though I’m not sure why you think it’s a “strawman” and it certainly wasn’t satirical.

        A strawman fallacy involves misrepresenting someone’s argument to make it easier to attack. I, however, accurately represented your argument and then used an **analogy ** to highlight its flaws. An analogy is a rhetorical tool used to explain a concept by comparing it to something similar. In this case, I was responding directly to your question about why it matters if torture is simulated, and if it’s ok to be streamed.

        My point, which you seem to have somehow missed, is that we have a clear precedent for broadcasting simulated torture. And, as you so helpfully pointed out, simulated torture not only is ok to be streamed, but it can also receive acclaim and awards.

        I’m glad we agree that simulated torture can be broadcast.

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      • SculptusPoe@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Not a straw man. An actual point.

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