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SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

There’s basically a lot of modern “feminists” who have decided that two wrongs make a right.

It’s good that women feel comfortable expressing themselves and trying to dismantle the patriarchy since it hurts us all. But many of them don’t stop there and end up crossing the line into misandry and blind hatred of men.

This results in these “feminists” saying some pretty bigoted shit like “white men can’t experience racism and sexism” as well as harassing men for seeking support.

This group mocks the male loneliness epidemic out of spite like other bigot groups.

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yarr@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

“white men can’t experience racism and sexism”

A big problem here is that not everyone has a common definition for racism and sexism. Some definitions take existing power structures and historical context, and others don’t. A discussion about this topic should be started with what specifically each participant believes these terms mean. Otherwise you have two people talking about “sexism” but they are just talking past each other because they lack a shared understanding of the term as it is used.

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- TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  they are well-defined terms.
  
  where people argue about it is who can be racist/sexist. a lot of people think it can’t exist against white men or form minority group to minority group. most of the people thinking this way are clueless white people trying to score virtue points. in those people’s minds being sexist against men is a positive thing.
  
  truth is sexism/racism is rampant everywhere. and in some societies its far worse than it is in the USA/Europe.
  
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  - yarr@feddit.nl ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    YOU might think they are well defined terms, but there are people claiming with a straight face that “race X can’t be racist, because racism needs power structures” or all this other exceptionalism. They use every definition but the one in the dictionary.
    
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- SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Usually, only bigots want to redefine the definitions of racism and sexism.
  
  It’s pretty easy not to be a bigot if you aren’t an asshole.
  
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leftytighty@slrpnk.net ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The “white people” idea has some merit when you consider that whiteness has usually been an arbitrary group of races and cultures that define the dominant group in that society. The whole “Italians and Irish weren’t once considered white” thing.

Obviously individuals can experience hardship and you might even argue that preferring non-white candidates or affirmative action is harmful (I’m not going to, but you can).

My position on this is that everything is a patch on fundamental inequality and I’d rather just get to anarcho-communism so we don’t have to solve 100 individual problems caused by historical racism and the capitalist machinery that lets that manifest as unjust distribution of wealth.

Regardless of age and gender and familial success in past generations we should all be equal.

(I’m not gonna argue that either)

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- tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Anarcho-communism is the way.
  
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- SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, I agree. Wealth redistribution would fix most social and economic problems overnight.
  
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- phx@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well, if any caucasianswanna experience a taste of racism/discrimination, just head down to certain areas of Richmond, BC Canada
  
  Signage only in Chinese (violates language laws)
  
  Restaurants that won’t even acknowledge your presence (if non Chinese)
  
  Realtors that won’t show you housing (if non Chinese)
  
  But if course nobody will do anything because to address the issue said seem… racist.
  
  And that’s the funny thing. Because people at the top of the racist pyramid generally share the same skin color, ethnicity and/or pants-contents as you, you get to be grouped in as “the oppressor”. Even if you share a lot more in common with victims of the same system, complaints are met with decision and ignored.
  
  That’s because it’s easier to divide and conquer by skin and gender to hide the real class war that exists.
  
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