Comment on iPhone 15's USB-C Port Remains Limited to Lightning Speeds

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• lustrum@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Based on the presentation it seems like the USB3 controller is on-die for the A17 pro bionic chip. So rather than re-engineer the chip for the A16 they’ve shipped it on the cheap, they could add an external controller or re-engineer the die.

  I’d bet next year all iphone models are USB3.

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  • krische@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People will hate it, but it’s a very logical explanation

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    • synthy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe I’m lost but why will people hate it?

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      • krische@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because people would probably rather believe it’s some conspiracy by Apple to purposely nerf the cheaper iPhone.

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  • GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Except several (non M1 iPads) have USB 3.1 already….

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d have to see a teardown, but I’d imagine with all the extra space in the iPads, they could stick a separate controller board in there. Phones are a bit harder to do that with, especially if it’s a last minute change.

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    • lustrum@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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      • GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Did you even read my comment?

        Several NON-M1 iPads have USB 3.1. Even the iPad mini on the A15 supports usb 3.1.

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  • stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah it appears like they are differentiating the high end phones with the latest SoC and giving the core phones the previous year’s chip. You get whatever the old chip had and next year’s iPhone 16 will get the A17 and all the features that includes.

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• HurlingDurling@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s their, use iCloud for data transfer instead of usb strategy

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  • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or, you know, wifi.

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    • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      WiFi is basically dialup compared to USB 3.1 speeds.

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      • ripcord@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But much faster than USB 2.0.

        You're not going to transfer much at faster than wifi speeds for very long on a phone.

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    • realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Man I tried wifi syncing for quite a while and had nothing but problems with it. It was a disaster.

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• realitista@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s to force people to pay for iCloud storage rather than keep files locally on their PC. That, and nothing else. No other phone in this price range still has USB 2.0, and most haven’t for a very long time.

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  • stevehobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t know any Apple users who actually use the cable. iCloud is effortless.

    I don’t think it’s so much to force people to pay for storage insomuch as only people shooting 4k 60 long videos or people with very poor internet actually plug in to transfer data.

    I would hate plugging my phone into my computer even if it were instant.

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    • HellAwaits@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would hate plugging my phone into my computer even if it were instant.

      Yeah, why would you love doing something that takes literally only two seconds to do? So stupid.

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      • stevehobbes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Because I have to think about it and remember to do it. And have enough storage in my laptop that it can store all my full res files and bring that with me everywhere.

        And hope my laptop doesn’t get stolen again. Or have a plan to back that up.

        I currently do literally nothing and all my photos and videos are seamlessly everywhere.

        I’m not sure I understand how anyone could think syncing over a cable is a better solution.

        iCloud backups and photo sync is amazing, especially while traveling. I can be almost anywhere and break or lose or hVe my phone stolen and lose virtually no data anywhere in the world.

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  • klyde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Typical dumb iPhone user

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• LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They may have had a contract for a certain number of chips for lightning and they’re using them in the lower iPhones instead of taking a loss.

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  • TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The old chips are on a larger node and cheaper to make. They are reserving the expensive chips for the expensive phone to save margin.

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  • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They also may simply not have had enough supply of chips for the newer iPhones

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    • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That too. But likely just engineered premium.

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