Comment on SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to Starlink

originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Starlink has much better latency than most satellites, but still 10 to 50 times as much as fiber.

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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ha yeah... not having to make a 340 mile round trip instead of the hundreds of feet to the nearest router will do that

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    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Uh, how often are you using the Internet to connect to a computer in your home town? Maybe 5% of the time?

      I’ve never used Starlink, but with a basic understanding of geography and optics, I’m going to bet that in most scenarios the latency difference between Starlink and fiber is negligible.

      That said, I’m not suggesting Starlink is a realistic replacement for fiber, just that latency isn’t the big issue.

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      • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Living right near a massive CX that services the US-Canada border… most times.

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      • randompasta@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Much more frequently than you think with CDN endpoints.

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      • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I live near DE-CIX and have fiber. So a decent chunk of web services I use is available with a latency of under 5ms. And everything else hosted in a European datacenter with under 20ms.

        So almost all of my internet traffic has a lower latency than starlink has under ideal conditions

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Just for reference, I get about 45-50 ping playing Marvel Rivals on Starlink.

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    • ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      On fiber, while I don’t play that game, I’ve never seen a ping longer than 10-13msecs.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The point is, unless you’re playing some hyper competitive game where a 30ms difference in reaction time is noticeable (this is less than 1 frame in a fighting game, for example) Starlink works perfectly well. Lower numbers are better, but for games you only need to compare that number to human reaction times (150-200ms) to see that both are small values less than the reaction time of any person.

        Previous satellite Internet using satellites in geosynchronous orbit had 1500ms latency, for comparison.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That’s basically perfect, with regards to online gaming.

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      • errer@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I got better ping playing Quake multiplayer in 1996

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So if my ping is currently 90ms, it’ll become 900ms - 4.5s?

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably no. Your ping is abnormally high for fiber, I’d expect a sub 10ms ping for you.

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      • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That makes a lot of assumptions about what I am pinging, and the networking context.

        In my case I was quoting my average ping in VRChat.

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    • cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My average latency on Starlink over the past year is 32 ms. It varies throughout the day from around 20 to 40 ms.

      If you are getting 90ms on fiber, you are either pinging a server that’s a long ways away or something is very wrong.

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      • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you look at the rest of the comments, you’ll see I was taking about my ping in a game. Not my shortest path to a nearby server.

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• ubergeek@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Well, to be fair, the dishes do make great outdoor cat beds!

  smithsonianmag.com/…/outdoor-cats-are-using-500-s…

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• Guidy@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A subscription that somehow still manages to use surge pricing? I’m assuming that’s the next logical step.

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