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And nobody cared.

It’s not “nobody cared” it’s “not enough people can afford to keep a roof over their heads, let alone afford an extra holodeck room in their house with an expensive holodeck setup”

I’d love to play HL alyx. I didn’t and don’t live in a place where I can have a perpetually empty room I can drill holes in the wall of, or drop $1k on a valve index (after shipping and imports) plus a new $2k gaming rig.

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MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Not that it invalidates your points at all but I played HL Alyx sitting down on an original oculus quest on a computer with a 1060 and an r5 2600. It was great but it and Beat Saber were basically the only two VR games that were fun enough for me to play for more than a few minutes at a time.

That quest has been collecting dust since I beat Alyx.

Really hard for me recommend spending several hundreds of dollars on hardware when there’s really only one game worth playing. But if you can find a cheap used quest or WMR headset it might be worth picking up and then selling just to play Alyx. Alyx is probably one of if not these most well optimized VR game out there. You really don’t need that powerful of a rig to play it.

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- savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ooh can I suggest games? There are definitely a bunch that are great to play sitting down, or standing up but in place. I haven’t bought new VR games since alyx came out, but I def have plenty
  
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Thatuserguy@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I’ve said this plenty of times but this stigma of VR is a REALLY REALLY weird one, especially since I keep seeing it. There are so many arcades and whatnot you can try VR where it’s just tethered in place. So many VR experiences are designed such that you can absolutely play them sitting down in a chair. The idea you need a “holodeck room” breaks down the second you look into it all.

Not only that, but the Quest can play VR games, and it’s running a phone processor. You don’t need top of the line hardware, just enough to run a normal video game, which I’m willing to bet if you’re a pc gamer, you literally have more than enough.

I beat Alyx on a $250 headset and a laptop with an underclocked 1060. In my shitty 800 sq ft apartment’s dining room. And it was still an absolutely phenomenal experience. Was it top of the line? No. But it was still plenty playable. These days my pc is in my bedroom and I just hook it up and play in the empty space in front of my bed. You absolutely CAN sink thousands of dollars and a dedicated space into it if you really want to. But it’s hardly a requirement and still plenty serviceable without it.

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- pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I refuse to give Facebook money and honestly if I didn’t have a WMR headset, I wouldn’t even have bothered.
  
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NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
People are buying entire consoles for one or two games. If folk can afford a 450 USD switch 2 for mario kart they can afford a facebook (ugh) quest for 300 bucks that regularly goes on sale.

Can EVERYONE? No. But this is a luxury hobby and plenty of discourse online is “I bought a PS5 for Demon Souls” or “I love Welcome Tour” and so forth.

Nah. Alyx was just completely ignored. Likely due to a mix of chuds not wanting to acknowledge women and… people don’t ACTUALLY care all that much about a new Half-Life. They just love meming about it.

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- very_well_lost@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  People are buying entire consoles for one or two games. If folk can afford a 450 USD switch 2 for mario kart they can afford a facebook (ugh) quest for 300 bucks that regularly goes on sale.
  
  The difference is that you don’t need an entire room to play the Switch 2 (hell, you even need a TV). It’s easier to scrape together the $500+ required for a console than it is to afford a down payment and a mortgage, or the extra rent for a two-bedroom instead of a one-bedroom apartment.
  
  Consoles and VR are both luxury goods, but the barrier for entry with the former is much lower than with the latter.
  
  Space will always be the most expensive peripheral of all.
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Already addressed that in the other branch but:
    
    Sitting and standing VR are both a thing and are both supported in Alyx. All you have to be able to do is rotate your chair 180 degrees away from your desk and you can play it. Hell, you can play it AT your desk but I would not recommend waving your arms in front of a monitor…
    
    Or, to put it in Nintendo terms: If you can play Welcome Tour and the game that is totally not wheelchair basketball, you can do seated VR.
    
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- slate@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Can a stand-alone quest play Alyx?
  
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  - NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    If you plug it into a PC that meets
    
    Processor: Core i5-7500 / Ryzen 5 1600
    
    Memory: 12 GB RAM
    
    Graphics: GTX 1060 / RX 580 - 6GB VRAM
    
    VR Support: SteamVR
    
    Then yes. Well, less plug-in and more pair these days since they do it over the network (so wifi).
    
    And it even works on Linux (with ALVR) although Proton is shockingly finicky with Alyx but it isn’t too much tinkering.
    
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  - Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    by itself no. requires a. pc thats like entry gaming in like 2016 standards though which isn’t particularly high.
    
    modern (e. g past like maybe 2 years) igpus could probably run it
    
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