The weird thing is that I’ve been ogling internet porn since the internet was invented, and I have never seen any strangulation porn ever. This sort of shit you have to hunt down. You certainly don’t “stumble across” it.
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flamingos@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Dame Rachel told BBC Newsnight: “Of course, we need age verification on VPNs - it’s absolutely a loophole that needs closing and that’s one of my major recommendations.”
She wants ministers to explore requiring VPNs “to implement highly effective age assurances to stop underage users from accessing pornography.”
Stop trying to enforce this at the service level, for God’s sake. What are you going to do when people switch to stuff like Tor?* ‘Online safety regulation pushes kids to that dark web’ will be a fire headline in a couple of months/years.
* I remember seeing someone link to something here they described as ‘Tor for apps’ that I can’t find, does anyone have that at hand?
The report also found more children are stumbling across pornography accidentally, with some of the 16 to 21-year-olds surveyed saying they had viewed it “aged six or younger”.
I’m sorry, but this is genuinely a failure of parents. Like, I’m not normally one to trot out the ‘parents should helicopter their children’ defence against regulation of social media, but giving a bloody six year old not-monitored-enough access to the internet is on the parent.
Also, I’d take this all a lot more seriously if parent actually used the tools already available to them:
We actually already have measures to deal with this: back in 2011 the government worked with ISPs (internet service providers) to come up with a Code of Practice on implementing ‘parental controls’ for all new customers. In 2013 this was adopted by all the major players. So when you (an adult – because you have to be over 18 to do this) register for an internet connection, you are offered adult content filtering by default. You can tweak this, if you like, for example you can decide you’re happy for your family to access social media sites but not pornography. Or if you don’t anticipate any children using your connection, you can opt out of adult filters altogether. Research conducted in 2022, however, found that although 61% of parents were aware of these filters, only 27% actually used them. Again, sing it with me: lol.
Back to the BBC article.
More than half of respondents to the survey had viewed strangulation as children, prompting Dame Rachel to also ask the government to ban depictions of it.
This is an implicit admission that age verification is ineffective. If it was, then children wouldn’t see it and then we wouldn’t need to ban it.
Naich@lemmings.world 13 hours ago
Denjin@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
It’s easier to police the users than it is to get social media companies to actually do the literal minimum amount of work to protect children. Plus it has the added benefit of greatly expanding the surveillance infrastructure so they can clamp down on those pesky 80 year old nuns who oppose genocide.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 19 hours ago
Tor is U.S. jurisdiction kinda so it can’t really be blocked or regulated.
People like me have been screaming for the past year or two that all these laws do is push children and other people onto more seedy sites.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 hours ago
How is Tor under US jurisdiction?
LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 hours ago
“Kinda” as in its maintained by a U.S. nonprofit EFF.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 18 hours ago
Thats cool and all but its completely irrelevant to the operation of the Tor network. Even if the EFF was wiped out of existence, the Tor network would keep running and the code would simply be forked and development would continue…
galmuth@feddit.uk 10 hours ago
It’s insane - I don’t give unrestricted internet access (certainly no social media) to my 9 year old, let alone a 6 year old!
Parent education is needed badly!
HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 8 hours ago
Yep. But these authoritarians do not think you should have a choice. Because some parents fail. They will use the claim to control all internet.
It is no accident that the solution is the force data sharing with the least trusted companies when it comes to data.
Just as smart folks choosing to pay VPN as more trusted then sharing data with random porn sites scares the crap out of them.
It’s got little to do with protecting anyone. Def not your children.