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• theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  People would probably be more supportive of your cause if you didn’t overly exaggerate in the most extreme and incorrect ways

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  • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Cows produce more milk if they’re forcibly impregnated every year. Supporting cow milk is supporting rape, this is a fact.

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    • stratoscaster@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Look, I don’t disagree with your point necessarily, but you’re not winning over literally anyone in this thread. It’s just not happening.

      Nobody ever has been convinced that dairy is rape and meat is murder by some Lemmy user saying “dairy is rape” and following up with “because it is”.

      Most obviously, your primary argument is consequentialism, which many people just don’t see as a valid form of ethics. Many people subscribe to deontology instead, and so they don’t see it as rape because they are not obtaining sexual gratification from artificial insemination or drinking milk.

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’re telling me motive makes a bad thing okay to do under deontology? In other words, it’s okay for a deontologist to murder someone if they have a cool motive?

        I dunno I thought Kant said you should never do bad things even if you have a good reason.

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    • MrSmith@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Adding “This is a fact” doesn’t make it a fact, sadly. Unless you’re in the US.

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The word you’re looking for is “artificial insemination” and it does not equate to rape.

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      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Alright then c’mon over buddy I’ll get the turkey baster ready

        I’m not even vegan but wtf is this logic

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So putting semen up a vagina without consent isn’t rape?

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ok buddy, explain to me the difference between artificial insemination and rape.

        I’ll wait

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yeah, we just let the bull do his thing and the family dairy worked fine until we sold it in the 90s. where you getting your info because I lived it?

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      • Genius@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        …umn.edu/…/artificial-insemination-cattle

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  • undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Care to point out where I exaggerated “in the most extreme and incorrect ways?”

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    • FlorisJan@kbin.melroy.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      They have got a point. You know what they mean. People will ignore you if you push your narrative too far, in their opinion

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      • undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Because I said “animal rape?” How dare I state blatantly where the beloved dairy products come from, the horror!

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      • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s quite literally no other way to put it.

        Imagine if we sugar coated women that undergo sexual abuse and rape. We’d be 100% in support of the women, no questions asked (well, hopefully, but more and more beta incel cucks are making their voices heard online).

        People will ignore this issue just like they ignore climate change. We as activists have a role in making it so they can’t ignore these things

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  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re a dairy shill that lacks moral intelligence.

    Of course you find the truth exaggerative when you’ve twisted your ethics to only consider rape a human phenomenon.

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve never claimed that rape is a “human phenomenon”. Artificial insemination of livestock is not raping them though.

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  • Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How do you think cows make milk on large, industrial scales?

    Do you think they’re always producing milk? Or that the industry switched cows out 1 by 1 as each and every one stops making milk?

    If you don’t the answer to these important, fundamental questions, you are living an ignorant life

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    • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Dairy cows are artificially inseminated once per year.

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• FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It could be a femboy milk pipe, you don’t know.

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  • ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    From a consenting fembAI.

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    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      has anyone ever asked chatgpt if it consented to the conversation

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• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thanks for calling it out. Something needed to be said with this post

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