Comment on Schools are using AI to spy on students and some are getting arrested for misinterpreted jokes and private conversations

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.

  The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.

  They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.

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  • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Man, if only there was a good way to stop school shooting

    Alas, one can only dream

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    • FEIN@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “no way to stop this” says the only country where this happens

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    • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dream? Not in an American school you don’t. You need to stay alert and be ready to “RUN, HIDE, FIGHT” at any moment.

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      • Zephorah@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    the policy is to stop school shootings

    You should try Europe once. It’s more fun than your 3rd world country.

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    • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Knowing that Europe literally has a problem with its soccer audiences making monkey noises at black athletes makes this particular bit of condescension all the more ridiculous.

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      • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Idiots and assholes exist everywhere. At least ours don’t have guns.

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      • Albbi@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Is this better, worse, or the same as throwing dildos at female WNBA athletes?

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      • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Reddit moment: comparing a few racist idiots with daily murders.

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      • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The Asiaphobia that still goes on in the UK is absurd…

        I’ll still never get over the British Dub of Takeshi’s Castle referring to contestants as “Happy Clappy Jappy Chappies” and “Kamikaze Cousins”

        A shame, I really wanted to watch that version, it has Craig Charles doing the narrating, but… sorry Lister, seems you can’t help but be a smeghead around the Japanese.

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      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Agreed on the condescension, that was uncalled for. Your whataboutism sucks though.

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    • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, I’m with you on that. I’m just pointing out the thought behind the policy, however flawed. I’ve been to Europe many years ago. I would love to be there now, except that as an American I would be rightly ostracized.

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    • Reverendender@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What do you mean, “try Europe?”

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  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The police are not effective at dealing with school shootings.

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  • db2@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Authorities be like “aww shoot, not again.”

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  • damnedfurry@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.

    Yeah, at the very least, the software should be passing on the statement, and context surrounding it, along with its ‘judgment’, to the authorities, putting all the responsibility for making the call that X genuinely merits action on said authorities.

    Of course, that’s just one piece of the puzzle, and not a solution if law enforcement isn’t held accountable when they fuck up.

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• verdigris@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate how fully leapfrogged the conversation about surveillance was. It’s so disgusting that it’s just assumed that all of your communications should be read by your teachers, parents, and school administration just because you’re a minor. Kids deserve privacy too.

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• state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The cruelty is the point.

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