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Asafum@feddit.nl 3 weeks ago
I truly believe that in the not too distant future we’re going to be “discussing” (the MSM telling us) how there are “too many people” because there isn’t enough work for them so they can feed themselves.
I’m very pessimistic generally, but I do not see the ownership class simply letting people “take” any of the profit they make from owning AI systems, and in the future advanced robotics utilizing the AI systems. Most of the work will be done by robots, but that doesn’t in any way mean “we” will have better lives because of it.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I already came to the conclusion, long ago, that once enough workers are replaced with automation, and the unemployment rate starts to reach the point where the engine fuelling capitalism — workers earning money to pay for goods and services — shuts down, fascism would take root in most countries and large swathes of humanity would be mass murdered to cull the population down to a more sustainable level.
There are not enough resources, at our current or foreseeable level of technology, to support even 3 billion people living a developed world lifestyle and rate of consumption. People are too greedy, selfish, and ignorant to accept they must consume less, so they’ll just blame “others” for their problems, the same way Pepe complain about traffic when THEY ARE traffic. Also, climate change and imminent ecological collapse may mean that far less than a billion people can be supported by the end of the century.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, youre wrong about us not having enough resources to go around. But, otherwise, the cynic in me says youre spot on with the fascism…I think you’re also wrong on why fascism is taking hold around the world. But, doesn’t matter. The result is the same.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Elaborate without suggesting everyone goes vegan or other dramatic societal changes that voters continually reject…
I don’t think automation is the reason for the current fascist expansion; that’s just from capitalism and their political class puppets destroying financial and housing security across the west… Though, I do suspect western oligarchs are promoting fascism because they know climate change and resource wars are going to cause major economic upheaval within the next couple of decades, regardless of automation.
crank0271@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
A party attended by some Fediverse-literate doomers / realists? Sign me up!
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Alternatively, there will be a socialist revolution and the people will take the AIs from the ownership class to work for all of us, so we have to work less.
octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
It does not seem like the most likely of possibilities at the moment though, I must admit.
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Historical precedent has shown that people generally revolt once they don’t have access to basic necessities, such as food. If you can only get necessities through work, in capitalism, and the majority of people don’t have work, so they don’t have work, so they revolt and take the food for all of us.