These dumb motherfuckers really think they are above it all and invincible. My only consolation is that I know they view having to “share” their existence with all us plebs as a literal and continual hell. May they all rot and fester in it.
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archchan@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Yarvin and Thiel scare me…
Here’s some of Yarvin’s writings, if you want to feel like disappearing into the woods, getting on a rocket, and blasting off as far, far away from this planet as possible:
precedent should be rolled back to 1900 at the latest, and probably more like 1800. The democratic era has corrupted everything, law being no exception.
One way to see internal security in a Patchwork realm is as a compromise between two sorts of Orwellianism. In the sense that the realm is (effectively) omniscient and omnipotent, it would fit most peoples’ definition of “Orwellian.”
Residents of a Patchwork realm have no security or privacy against the realm.
All residents, even temporary visitors, carry an ID card with RFID response. All are genotyped and iris-scanned. Public places and transportation systems track everyone. Security cameras are ubiquitous. Every car knows where it is and who is sitting in it, and tells the authorities both. Residents cannot use this data to snoop into each others’ lives, but Friscorp can use it to monitor society at an almost arbitrarily detailed level.
There is one problem, though, which is … the problem of adults who are not productive members of society. In our little Newspeak we call them wards of the realm.
As Delegate of San Francisco, what should you do with these people? I think the answer is clear: alternative energy. Since wards are liabilities, there is no business case for retaining them in their present, ambulatory form. Therefore, the most profitable disposition for this dubious form of capital is to convert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.
Okay, just kidding. This is the sort of naive Randian thinking which appeals instantly to a geek like me, but of course has nothing to do with real life. The trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass.
However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.
The best humane alternative to genocide I can think of is not to liquidate the wards—either metaphorically or literally—but to virtualize them. A virtualized human is in permanent solitary confinement, waxed like a bee larva into a cell which is sealed except for emergencies. This would drive him insane, except that the cell contains an immersive virtual-reality interface which allows him to experience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.6
The virtual worlds of today are already exciting enough to distract many away from their real lives. They will only get better. Nor is productive employment precluded in this scenario—for example, wards can perform manual labor through telepresence. As members of society, however, they might as well not exist. And because cells are sealed and need no guards, virtualization should be much cheaper than present-day imprisonment.
Many other regions of the earth, however, contain large numbers of human beings whose existence may well prove an unequivocal liability to the owners of any ground on which they would reside. If so, they can be virtualized, creating giant human Wachowski honeycombs of former bezonians, whose shantytowns can be cleared and redeveloped as villas for retired oil-company executives.
Aviandelight@mander.xyz 3 days ago
Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If these are the people in power’s friends than they aren’t far from this train of thought. People who think so lowly of others do not deserve this kind of power. People who think this lowly of others and would actually try to enact it should probably be the subject of mass riots. Reading that shit made my blood boil. These are the powerful and affluent.
kahdbrixk@feddit.org 2 days ago
Unbelievable that anyone printed this in either online or offline form of text. A humane alternative to genocide, cause no one would really like the biodiesel solution.
Good to see that democracy actually seems to be the foe for these people. Let’s try and keep it that way…
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 days ago
At some point I loved the kind of jokes based in his ideologies, about bioreactors and such.
And - the emotion behind this kind of thought is very important. It’s not worse for anarchist and humanist thought than it is for the fascist kind.
Thought experiments are necessary. In the “good old times” such thought experiments as quoted here were normal for many sci-fi series.
The technologies (many of them) to make this are here. What would you do to find the least inhuman way they’ll be used? Not doing anything is not an option - someone will use them to their ideology’s advantage.
My idea at some point was that if we can’t prevent surveillance and miniaturization and automation to the degree it’s a failed endeavor to try to preserve privacy and security against those, then we should at least create a panopticon society, so that those Yarvin’s “delegates” were as visible for the rest of us as the rest of us for them. Suppose the “nothing to hide” norm is here - and we are already losing against it, just silently. What can we do to avoid such a hellish and degenerate end of history as he describes?
It’s a bit like with nukes, you can’t (well, 50 years ago you couldn’t) reasonably well protect against another’s nuke, but you can balance it with your own.
0x01@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
Teehee just kidding about my proposal to turn humans into petroleum… unless?
What an unfortunate collection of words to read on a Friday like today