Comment on Humanity will likely survive climate change, but the vast majority of humans won't.

• baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m so glad I don’t have any kids. That failure was a blessing in disguise

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  • CerineArkweaver@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To borrow a phrase from my profession, my not having children isn’t a bug, it’s a feature!

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    • baggachipz@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      ‘Tis my profession as well. My life is all testing on Prod.

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• higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  looking forward from 2025, things are quickly going to go off the rails.

  Going to? Going to? Have you not... gestures vaguely

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  • Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I hear you. I meant that more as in even more off the rails, like completely ejected off the rails.

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• null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I disagree.

  I dont think its particularly likely there will be famines in the next 5 years or so on a scale that can’t be countered by aid.

  Sure, economies might start to feel some very serious consequences, shit might start to get very real, I just dont think we’re quite at the point where people start dying.

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  • Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I have mixed feelings about it. I think it’s perhaps 50/50 on whether things really go crazy within 5-10 years. It’s definitely more than 0% chance, especially considering that people have already been dying due to climate change for quite a while now (extreme weather events, drought, and related conflicts).

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    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I guess it’s subjective.

      Sure, climate change is starting to have an impact and more people might die due to malnutrition which is related.

      My predictions within 5 years are something like :

      • intensifying weather events like floods, storms, cyclones / hurricanes, to a point where insurance becomes a real unavoidable problem, putting trillions of dollars of real estate at risk.
      • intensifying weather events like droughts where some traditionally viable agricultural areas no longer are, maybe a 10% reduction of arable land in any given region.
      • localised famine events generating a few hundred thousand climate change refugees per year.
      • increasing commercial interest in arable land in regions less likely to be impacted, farm values doubling in some areas
      • increasing political interest in arable land in these same regions, with escalating political tension

      I think societal collapse is still a decade away at least. However, the poor and impoverished are certainly going to start to feel the burn.

      On the one hand I have a left leaning progressive mind set and have with young children - I’m heavily motivated to try to change our trajectory. On the other hand I’m 43 years old and I don’t remember a period where people weren’t predicting societal collapse in 5 years.

      Climate change is bad. Mass extinctions, severe weather events, and famine, are all a certainty in the coming years. However, this needs to be balanced by technological advancements that are going to mitigate the effects. Just as an example, we can produce more food from less land than ever in history.

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      • Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I pretty much agree with most of your assessment. Thank you for mentioning insurance and real estate, as that will particularly impact countries like the US, where the two have been in a feedback loop, greatly inflating home prices.

        I just worry that any technological advances will only be used to either directly help people at the top or to make them richer in the process of helping those below. That has been increasingly the trend over the decades.

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