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ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Tja@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Colbert didn’t go to prison, not really a good argument.

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  • breecher@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There are many ways to suppress speech.

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    • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Free speech” doesn’t entitle you to dictate policy over privately held companies. We spent four years trying to convince Trumpers of this. Be smarter.

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      • fishy@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What do you mean, did the Biden admin target any particular shows or networks? Are you also aware the current admin is holding off Paramount’s merger to exert influence over their programming? IDK how free that feels. May not be directly breaking laws, but it’s absolutely a subversion of free speech.

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    • bigmamoth@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

      That a poor comparison since on x the moderations is about random citizen and not paid employee doing a work for a company that a the end of the day is free to choose how to spent her money

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      • MellowYellow13@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It did make loads of money though? Why do you get to just push blatant lies?

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      • db2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

        Even if that were true, which it isn’t, what business does the president have even mentioning it much less making a demand?

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Colbert didn’t go to prison

    Trump unloads in late-night rants threatening to prosecute news networks, Beyonce, Oprah and Kamala Harris

    I’m sure Colbert’s on the list somewhere.

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    • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh so the thing that HASN’T HAPPENED is your counterargument?

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are on my list. So what? Neither of you are in prison.

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  • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why is this downvoted? It correctly point out what “free speech” actually means.

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s a visceral reaction, my guess. It’s exactly the same argument that right wingers used when oreilly, carlson, etc got canceled.

      Not paying someone millions for saying stuff on TV is not infringing on free speech, now apparently it’s leftists turn to not understand it.

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• MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.

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    • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But then, you see who sits in the supreme court, for fucking lifetime.

      And of course the stupid pardon rule.

      And immunity of president making him above the law even tho nobody shall be above the law.

      And possibility to de-found stuff without a vote or a chance to do a referendum.

      And gerrymandering.

      And winner takes it all.

      And no absolute majority requirement.

      All this made this fuckup possible.

      Everyone loses except only a very small minority wins.

      Do something about it.

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