Comment on Password manager by Amazon

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• kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m going back to paper for most things and I don’t know man, I think it’s more user friendly given the current tech landscape. My paper notebook never changed the interface to add a huge Copilot button.

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Neither did my laptop, desktop, or phone. I use Linux and GrapheneOS, so I don’t deal with most of the nonsense people have been complaining about.

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    • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Neither did my laptop, desktop, or phone. I use Linux and GrapheneOS

      GrapheneOS is a significantly more complicated and less accessible option for most users compared to a simple paper notebook, which is the context of this post.

      But if you want to go this deep, then yes, maybe your phone using your custom OS never introduced Gemini or Copilot without your will. It is however running a Qualcomm modem firmware you can’t control and is phoning home, regardless of your GrapheneOS settings, with your GPS coordinates and other data you can’t read, at any time. Don’t worry, with tech we can always find a malicious feature that works against the user, regardless of how deep you want to dive.

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      • NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It is however running a Qualcomm modem firmware you can’t control and is phoning home, regardless of your GrapheneOS settings, with your GPS coordinates and other data you can’t read, at any time.

        Can you expand upon this?

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Sure, there are always things you can’t control in a mobile phone because modem manufacturers don’t like to give up that control (and I’m sure there are regulatory concerns as well).

        My point is that if you don’t want Gemini, Copilot or whatever, you can make choices to avoid them. Each choice has consequences, and some just reveal issues you had ignored up to that point (e.g. your modem issue).

        But why not a paper notebook? For me:

        • easy to lose/forget to pack on trips; can’t lose a cloud service
        • paper doesn’t have a good backup mechanism
        • can’t copy/paste into my devices from a paper notebook
        • I’m much less likely to use good, random passwords with a notebook

        I use Bitwarden, which gives me a lot of convenience, allows me to self-host and iwny data, and encourages me to use really strong passwords.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “For most things”? Like written notes are whatever, if you don’t mind carrying it around with you everywhere you go and hoping it doesn’t rain. But definitely do not put your passwords in there…

    Modern password managers are super inexpensive, easy to use, and essential security tools. You can’t store your passkeys or TOTP in your notebook either.

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    • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      if you don’t mind carrying it around with you everywhere

      I doubt the target demographic for a paper password notebook is logging into their accounts everywhere, as if that’s some common ocurrence.

      and hoping it doesn’t rain

      Ah yes, famously, before the invention of laptops universities and schools didn’t work on every single rainy day, because paper notebooks and books are impossible to keep dry. As a matter of fact, the UK never had an educational system before the digital age for this very reason, it’s so sad.

      You can’t store your passkeys or TOTP in your notebook either.

      You shouldn’t store 2FA and recovery codes on your password manager. They offer the feature as a competitive selling point, but the entire point of having 2FA is avoiding single point of failures.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        paper notebooks and books are impossible to keep dry

        Not impossible but shit happens. Used to happen to me all the time. I used to walk/bike everywhere.

        but the entire point of having 2FA is avoiding single point of failures.

        Your password manager is not usually the point of failure, it’s almost always the provider.

        You’re not wrong, I just can’t be arsed to manage 2 separate password managers.

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    • AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      and hoping it doesn’t rain

      Some papers resist water and are not crazy expensive. If its a notebooksl you are going to carry everywhere I guess it could be a good buy.

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• spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It is very user friendly, just cumbersome and slow.

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