Comment on Google Keeps Making Smartphones Worse

• Gibibit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Just because it doesn’t have latest Android doesn’t mean it’s trash. And Fairphone also aims for 7 years support just like your Pixel example, so your whole point is moot.

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  • hikaru755@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It doesn’t need to be the latest android version per se, but I wouldn’t want to use a phone that’s not getting security patches anymore

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Not having security updates makes it effectively trash, as far as I’m concerned.

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• paequ2@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash.

  Yeah, I’ve noticed this as well…

  … which is why I was surprised when I read that Nothing Phone 3 will get 5 years of updates + 2 years of security updates.

  androidauthority.com/nothing-phone-3-software-upd…

  Nothing’s Co-Founder and Head of Marketing, Akis Evangelidis, has confirmed that the upcoming Nothing Phone 3 will ship with a “5+7” software update promise. …likely means the phone will get five years of Android version updates and seven years of security patches…

  Although, you can’t install GrapheneOS on Nothing phones… so, 🤷

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  • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    With the new sustainability laws in EU they have to offer 5 years of updates from the sale of their last unit.

    The Ecodesign Regulation lays out minimum requirements for mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets to be sold on the EU market to ensure

    • greater resistance to drops, scratches, dust and water
    • use of more durable batteries, capable of at least 800 charge cycles while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
    • clear rules on disassembly and repair, requiring manufacturers to supply key spare parts within 5-10 working days, and for at least 7 years after the product model is no longer sold in the EU
    • longer availability of operating system updates, at least 5 years from the date the last unit model is sold
    • fair access for professional repairers to the software or firmware needed for repairs

    …europa.eu/…/new-eu-rules-durable-energy-efficien…

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    • utopiah@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      clear rules on disassembly and repair, requiring manufacturers to supply key spare parts within 5-10 working days, and for at least 7 years after the product model is no longer sold in the EU

      Wonder how that applies to eBike. Been waiting for my CowBoy belt since February now. Do not recommend. No more “designer” eBike now, I’ll only buy bikes with the most standard parts.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah that’s great news. Esp. considering it’s an $800+ phone.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    isnt graphene mostly pixels only.

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    • noodlejetski@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it's not "mostly", it's only available for several latest Pixel generations.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not the “latest” Pixel generations, devices as old as the Pixel 4 receive extended support (although it’s obviously not recommended) and that’s mostly because Google does not support them. This will be greatly improved moving forward, since Google has promised much longer update cycles for new devices.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  All phones that are sold in the EU now have to have 5 years of updates after the phone is no longer sold.

  Basically, all phones have 6+ years of updates now.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You realize there’s a whole rest of the world that’s not the EU?

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh my fucking god, really?!

      You’re so smart, that never occurred to me. I thought that there was only 27 countries in the world, and all of them were in one continent!

      Yes, I do realise that, genius. I’m not from an EU country myself.

      However, I engaged my brain cells and quickly realised that most phones that exist are sold in the EU, and therefore the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide.

      Like how the EU mandated USB-C and now it’s worldwide.

      I know it seems like I’m being mean in this comment, but fuck me it’s the most Reddit comment ever. A pointless comment just begging to start a pointless argument. Do better.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide

        I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a vested interest in NOT shipping them outside the EU. It’s called planned obsolescence. Just looks at Macs and OCLP. It’s so easy to keep older Macs updated that it’s actually able to be done by some random developers in their free time (not to trivialize this effort, just to say that it would be extremely trivial for Apple as the developer of the OS and one of the most profitable companies in the world to do it). And yet Apple does not ship these updates to them. Why? Because they want you to buy new shit.

        I know it seems like I’m being mean in this comment

        You are just being mean and extremely rude. It’s completely unnecessary and I’ve done absolutely nothing to deserve such language. You are actively making this community shittier.

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• No1@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  anything not Google or Samsung is, as it’s always been, software support.

  Motorola.has 5 years on most of its new phones nowadays

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