The big problem with anything not Google or Samsung is, as it’s always been, software support. You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash. So you can save a buck on the short term but it will cost you more in the long run and you’ll have shitty devices all the way along anyway.
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VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Can I get a rundown of the few non-flagship phonemakers that are currently out there? I have heard of The Nothing Phone. Are there more companies that put together Androids to operate within the US?
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
Gibibit@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Just because it doesn’t have latest Android doesn’t mean it’s trash. And Fairphone also aims for 7 years support just like your Pixel example, so your whole point is moot.
hikaru755@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It doesn’t need to be the latest android version per se, but I wouldn’t want to use a phone that’s not getting security patches anymore
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
Not having security updates makes it effectively trash, as far as I’m concerned.
paequ2@lemmy.today 1 month ago
You get 2 or maybe 3 years of updates and then the device is trash.
Yeah, I’ve noticed this as well…
… which is why I was surprised when I read that Nothing Phone 3 will get 5 years of updates + 2 years of security updates.
androidauthority.com/nothing-phone-3-software-upd…
Nothing’s Co-Founder and Head of Marketing, Akis Evangelidis, has confirmed that the upcoming Nothing Phone 3 will ship with a “5+7” software update promise. …likely means the phone will get five years of Android version updates and seven years of security patches…
Although, you can’t install GrapheneOS on Nothing phones… so, 🤷
anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
With the new sustainability laws in EU they have to offer 5 years of updates from the sale of their last unit.
The Ecodesign Regulation lays out minimum requirements for mobile phones, cordless phones and tablets to be sold on the EU market to ensure
- greater resistance to drops, scratches, dust and water
- use of more durable batteries, capable of at least 800 charge cycles while retaining at least 80% of their initial capacity
- clear rules on disassembly and repair, requiring manufacturers to supply key spare parts within 5-10 working days, and for at least 7 years after the product model is no longer sold in the EU
- longer availability of operating system updates, at least 5 years from the date the last unit model is sold
- fair access for professional repairers to the software or firmware needed for repairs
utopiah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
clear rules on disassembly and repair, requiring manufacturers to supply key spare parts within 5-10 working days, and for at least 7 years after the product model is no longer sold in the EU
Wonder how that applies to eBike. Been waiting for my CowBoy belt since February now. Do not recommend. No more “designer” eBike now, I’ll only buy bikes with the most standard parts.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
Yeah that’s great news. Esp. considering it’s an $800+ phone.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
isnt graphene mostly pixels only.
noodlejetski@piefed.social 1 month ago
it's not "mostly", it's only available for several latest Pixel generations.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 month ago
All phones that are sold in the EU now have to have 5 years of updates after the phone is no longer sold.
Basically, all phones have 6+ years of updates now.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 month ago
You realize there’s a whole rest of the world that’s not the EU?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Oh my fucking god, really?!
You’re so smart, that never occurred to me. I thought that there was only 27 countries in the world, and all of them were in one continent!
Yes, I do realise that, genius. I’m not from an EU country myself.
However, I engaged my brain cells and quickly realised that most phones that exist are sold in the EU, and therefore the OEM has to make and test these updates anyway. In virtually all cases they will then release these worldwide.
Like how the EU mandated USB-C and now it’s worldwide.
I know it seems like I’m being mean in this comment, but fuck me it’s the most Reddit comment ever. A pointless comment just begging to start a pointless argument. Do better.
No1@aussie.zone 5 weeks ago
anything not Google or Samsung is, as it’s always been, software support.
Motorola.has 5 years on most of its new phones nowadays
Prox@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Would Moto count? I’ve been rocking their basic-ass phones for years now. Way, way less bloatware than Samsung, etc. and only like $200 unlocked.
MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Besides Nothing Phone, you’ve got Fairphone (sustainable/repairable), Sony (great cameras), Asus (gaming focused), Nokia (budget-friendly), OnePlus (speed/value), and Xiaomi (if you can import) all working to varying degreees in the US market - tho carrier compatibility can be trickly so always check bands before buying.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
i have oneplus12r this my first non-pixel phone, you might want to visit the oneplus sub to look for other peoples experience. if you are looking for good deal on phones, online stores like swappa is a good start.
dukatos@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Motorola is full of bloatware. Can not recommend.
The hardware is fine, though.
utopiah@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Daily driving the cmf with /e/OS from Murena for few months now, warmly recommended.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Fairphone just released the Fairphone 6.
Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Unfortunately for the EU only.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Not true, it can be bought in the US at Murena’s website.
Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
Cool! Last tine I checked out wasn’t there. Must have been added recently.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 month ago
Ebay it is. Bands are what matter. If it picks up Tmobile, Tello and the like, who cares who’s market it’s for?
kalpol@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Well AT&T banned the (better) international models from their network a while back. They work fine. Just banned.