Comment on I totally missed the point when PeerTube got so good

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Counter point: I dont want to watch content that has a monetary incentive behind it.

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  • Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why exactly do you think people create content for you to consume in the first place?

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    • MouldyCat@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Sharing knowledge. Lots of people are not primarily motivated by greed.

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      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s great to aspire for but there’s still an almost total lack of content in many genres I enjoy on YouTube. I don’t even think PeerTube has progressed as far as the Lemmy community in terms of content availability. Admittedly this is probably because text and image content is much easier to create, but as a user I don’t find much reason to spend time there yet.

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      • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        of course… but plenty are. When you see kids at school saying they want to be content creators as a job you know it is only going to get worse. I never said it was right or wrong but it is exactly what it is for a large percentage of people. Also can’t get past the fact that like googling something, watching a video on youtube is literally in peoples vocabulary

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      • Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What content have you produced for free? Do you consider yourself greedy when you cash your work paychecks?

        I know first hand that making content is a lot of work

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      • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Should teachers stop making money too?

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    • smeg@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Plenty of people uploaded stuff to youtube for years before it started giving them any money

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    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Humans love sharing new things with each other, its part of our social structure and how we ensure our own survival. Its as natural as hunger or thirst.

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  • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Same, and it’s weird to me that so many people now believe that they deserve to be paid for participating in their hobbies.

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• chromodynamic@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Got me thinking about how YouTubers get money. According to a quick web search, YT pays $0.01 to $0.03 per view. So if you release 10 videos a month, you made $0.10 per viewer. But Patreon memberships are typically around $5.00 a month, equivalent to $0.50 per view in the same scenario. Of course Patreon will take a cut, but it is still a lot more money.

  So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought. In this case, the only advantage of YT over PT is discovery, i.e. the number of viewers likely to find your videos in the first place (but there's also more competition on YT, so...)

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  • skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Creators upload videos twice, once for patrons who watch them ad-free and once for people who don’t want to pay. That way, people who don’t have money to spend on YouTube can still enjoy their videos and they get a little kickback. Youtubers don’t need Peertube to release videos ad-free, so it doesn’t really change much if Patreon is more than enough.

    Furthermore, the inherent privacy issues with peer to peer video consumption (I can easily track what videos you’ve been watching by simply connecting to the swarm) and the huge hosting costs a moderate sized Youtuber would inflict make the premise rather silly.

    I think Peertube is great for small channels and maybe for corporate videos within an intranet, but Peertube can’t afford a moderately popular Youtuber.

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    • chromodynamic@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Some good points I hadn't considered!

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  • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So, if a lot of your viewers think your channel is good enough to donate to, ad money basically becomes an afterthought.

    I don’t think this is realistic, most people will not open their wallets, especially since they can’t just go around paying a monthly subscription to everyone they watch.

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  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think 1 cent per view is on the high end for YouTube

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• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Some instances have different ways of making money. TILVids for example shares money from donations with the creators. Theres also support buttons that help creators out. As well as ads on some instances as themes.

  Its not as popular for the same reason your on fediverse, the interface allows anyone without ads to see your videos. The insentive does not always need to be $$, it most cases, its community building.

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• errer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also the iOS app is pure shit. Can’t even filter by language.

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