Comment on YSK Doctors of Osteopathy in the US seldom practice Osteopathy

• oce@jlai.lu ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why do they keep a name referring to a pseudo-science then?

  It is as if astrophysicists were using the name Doctor of Astrology and then claiming they are not the same as the astrology pseudoscience. Why would they do use this name then?

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• insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s not a contradiction, the fact that that is the page you get from searching the term is exactly their point.

  Looking at the page Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine, it even seems to point to both having the same origin (1874 USA) and later changing:

  Osteopathic medicine (as defined and regulated in the United States) emerged historically from the quasi-medical practice of osteopathy, but has become a distinct and proper medical profession.

  Be it resolved, that the American Osteopathic Association institute a policy, both officially in our publications and individually on a conversational basis, to use the terms osteopathic medicine in place of the word osteopathy and osteopathic physician and surgeon in place of osteopath; the words osteopathy and osteopath being reserved for historical, sentimental, and informal discussions only

  Though also…

  DO schools provide an additional 300–500 hours in the study of hands-on manual medicine and the body’s musculoskeletal system, which is referred to as osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM). Osteopathic manipulation is a pseudoscience.

  and from the related sources:

  Mark Crislip also pointed out that DOs are using less and less osteopathic manipulation in their practice. This is a good thing, and hopefully it will eventually completely fade away. Essentially we need to distinguish between osteopathic medicine, which is mostly equivalent to standard medicine, and osteopathic manipulation, which is pure pseudoscience akin to straight chiropractic.

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  • Semester3383@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As far as I can tell, there is nothing in chiropractic practice that is not quackery.

    Think about it this way: the basic practice is the idea that you have misalignments causing problems, and that you can manually manipulate the body back into alignment. But then what keeps you from getting unaligned again as soon as you stand up? (Nothing, of course! That’s why you have to keep going back!) Take, for example, the common inguinal hernia. You can manually manipulate it so that you’re forcing the intestines back through the abdominal wall. And it absolutely relieves the immediate discomfort. But you’re not actually fixing anything; you need surgery to stitch the tear up. If you have weak support structures causing a problem, then physical therapy is going to create a permanent solution. If you have a herniated disc that’s not healing and causing referred pain, then you need to surgically fix the herniation.

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  • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If its a chiropractic thing then it’s quackery. If not do you mind sharing the machine?

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    • insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      do you mind sharing the machine?

      Atlas Orthogonal Percussion Instrument. Basically it pushes the top vertebra back into alignment based on the precise angle needed.

      For some background, the cause is I had whiplash many years ago. I also likely have EDS (a potential factor for the low-speed whiplash) so it’s possible even if this machine has some basis it might not be a reliable fix for me.

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      • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s some chiropractic bullshit. With EDS you have a much greater chance of a chiropractor fucking you up and its a neck issue, would be a hard fuck no. There’s been repeated studies showing that chiropractor manipulation of the neck has a greater than acceptable chance of death, paralysis, stroke, and arterial dissections.

        Order of operations

        1. PT and massage therapy
        2. A relevant specialist (you dont mention what issues you actually have) and this may lead to
        3. surgical intervention

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• Successful_Try543@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yet, why do they keep the term ‘osteopathy’ when the don’t do osteopathy, but real, honest osteopathic medicine which would usually be denominated as orthopaedic.

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