It is cheaper to have manufactured & is very much a “known”, but I’m right there with you. If it’s not USB-C, fuck 'em.
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Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
4-5 years ago I stopped buying products that had micro-usb, lightning or any other form of port that wasn’t usb C.
Last week I was looking at a gadget and it had micro-fucking-usb and was produced in early 25! What the fuck?!
CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 3 days ago
tempest@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Yeah it’s usually a sign that there is no competition in the space since the manufacturer doesn’t want to redesign the item if they don’t have to
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Things like simple microcontrollers with only USB 2.0 support are still the cheapest around plus they have other upsides over the stuff supporting USB 3.0 - namelly being simpler, less powerful and hence consuming less power - and then there are all sorts of hardware single purpose integrated USB 2.0 and even 1.0 microchips (which implement a single, hardcoded, part of the USB protocol), so it makes some sense for the cheapest devices to not have support for USB PD charging or other USB 3.0 functionality.
From my experience with Chinese suppliers (ages ago) it’s almost the opposite of what you say: the competition over there is crazy and almost always price based, so they’ll do crazy shit to shave some cents off the price of their hardware, hence all sorts of cheap hardware from China which comes with a USB-C connector but really only supports USB 2.0 or earlier charging, hence USB-C is realy doing stuff the same way as in the USB-A times.
Zetta@mander.xyz 3 days ago
Or it’s just a very cheap item. I recently bought a rechargeable disposal cannabis vape while out of town for work, I asked the dude for the cheapest dispo they had, bought it and it had a fucking micro USB on it.
Some homeless guys problem though not mine, I probably only used 50mg of the 1g cart and didn’t have to recharge it, so gave it to some homeless dude before I left.
4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
You’re not in the EU then it seems. The EU is mandating USB-C now. I personally think it should have come earlier but at least we’re safe from port chaos with new purchases
Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
I’m in Europe, but not in a EU country. In Norway we adopt most, if not all, eu laws and mandates.
The port chaos back in the mid 2000s was a mess! We’ve come a long way since then.
Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Now we have one port but that one port has loads of different speeds depending on the type. Plus USB3 naming convention is a total mess.
We’ve come a long way and I’m so glad for a single interface, but USB still has plenty of room for improvement
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I bought a product (2pk actually) the other day that had mini-usb ports . . .
bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 3 days ago
And there’s are those gadgets that have a USB-C socket but don’t have the correct circuitry, so that they only work with a USB-A to C cable.
frank_exchange_of_views@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
There is a special place in hell for those fuckers
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Man I’ve nearly thrown things away because of this. Things where I would’ve been too lazy to pursue a warranty claim, but still pissed that they didn’t work.
Try multiple chargers and cables and it just won’t charge. Try USB-A brick with A to C cable and it starts charging. Fucking hell.
vaionko@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
This is stupid. It’s around 0.3 cents worth of components to make it work properly.
Hoimo@ani.social 2 days ago
The hard part is getting the 10 IQ points to follow the specs properly when designing the components.
DirtPuddleMisfortune@feddit.org 2 days ago
That’s 0.3 cents less profit for the corporate overlords.
iamnotme@feddit.uk 3 days ago
I bought a cheap ish keyboard that would only charge with USB A - USB C cable that came with it. Nothing else worked.
My son lost the cable and that keyboard is now junk.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Have you tried another USB-A to USB-C cable?
Those cables are cheap that it’s maybe worth a try, IMHO.
If I remember it correctly the only thing any USB-A to USB-C adaptor has to have to properly allow backwards compatibility is 2 resistors, which are stupidly cheap components (yeah, it will never be able to support things like USB PD charging - which can do all the way up to 100W - but it should still handle about 4.5W A from a USB Host device and up to 15W from a dumb charger, which should be more than enough for a wireless keyboard).
iamnotme@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I’ll have another look online. The ones I had didn’t work but it’s worth another shot I guess. I’ve got another keyboard now, but it’s useful to have a working backup.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m glad I watched some video on this I vaguely recalled, as I may have accidentally thrown a shaver away because it wasn’t charging…
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 days ago
I’ve got a chinesium rechargable battery/tire inflator which only charges when plugged into some chargers because it clearly doesn’t support USB-PD