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kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Why should any state inherently exist? I’ll say it about the US and ill say it about Russia. No state deserves to exist, the second their military is no longer strong enough to enforce their rule they dissapear.

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SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
So when a sovereign nation can no longer defend itself from a more powerful one, they should cede their lands and resources? That ridiculous.

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- kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  The west has used that logic for decades to justify brutal military occupations. I say that land and resource belong to no state, any claim of ownership is inherent violence.
  
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  - SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Let’s come back to reality, yeah?
    
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  - Reality_Suit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    No, rich people have used that as justification. Poor people don’t invade countries. Poor people flee from persecution. Beyond race, gender, or religion, it’s always the perceived wealthy that cause all of the problems. Everyone else is responding to their policies and laws.
    
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rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Why should your comment exist? Why should sky exist? Why should exist? blah blah blah

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- kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Im not militarily occupying a land, stripping the natural resources, and extracting labor value from a people while justifying under it the pretext of a national identity and state wealth. They talk of national unity yet their capitalists exploit the workers all the same.
  
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  - rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    If I pull the string what else does it say?
    
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    kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    If I go on the string of liberal justifications I wonder how far back I have to go before I find the CIA pulling it
    
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TheFogan@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
So in short the arguement is… over time it should be like corporations in America, we just watch as the biggest eat the smaller ones until we’ve just got one giant nation? Isn’t that basically the plot of 1984… (basically the world is down to 3 super nations… with effectively the same government. In perpetual war with eachother just to make sure resources don’t pile up to the point where everyone can survive comfortably.

Because I mean that’s basically it, having diverse nations is a good thing. Allows us to actually see differences in laws, learn from different governments, good ideas can be copied, bad ideas can be avoided. Any big nation can trample all the smaller ones. It’s a really bad idea to let them.

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