Comment on ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it

TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  At the very least I hope it’s hosted by someone outside the US so it’s out of reach to the authorities.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For all we know the app might just be a honeypot itself

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    • andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is a genuine concern that we should recognize.

      I’m about 99% confident it isn’t, but considering it is the kind of caution we should all be exercising these days.

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      • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        • Is it open source? (No)
        • Is it’s publishing and build pipeline open? (No)
        • Can anyone audit it? (No)
        • Does the author make unreliable claims of privacy? (Yes)
        • Does the author detail how data privacy and security is implemented? (No)

        It’sprobably not a honeypot. But it’s also likely to be negligent enough in implementation that it might as well be.

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      • TachyonTele@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How would we learn either way if it was or wasn't?

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    • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s always worth considering. A phone app doesn’t take a big operating budget to launch and maintain. Especially for state-actors.

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• echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Federation is an overly complicated solution it’s not required. It also wouldn’t actually help, they can still take it off the app store there’d be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.

  The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There’s no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that’s a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that’s probably unnecessary

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  • Enkimaru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius … how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I can’t tell if you’re serious or not.

      If the internet is down then I don’t have access to the app store. Also if the internet’s down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.

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  • pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Honestly yeah, if we can just torrent the database and have it stored outside the U.S then it’s good

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• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Federated application for a map with markers and notes?

  It seems for me that this would be too narrow a purpose.

  Maybe a general-purpose public notification map. With some functionality allowing to separate markers by their authors and by tags. Or it can be spammed with bogus markers. By tags - well, for it to be general-purpose. By authors - because moderation can’t be left to instance admins.

  And, of course, I’m personally for separation of moderation, instance ownership, identities and hosting, but my own toy attempt showed me that the logic of checking the chain of privilege delegation is kinda PITA. That is, separating identities from instances is not that hard. And communities. What’s hard is the community owner delegating rights to other identities, and in general authorized actions. It’s a task of determining which privileges does an identity currently possess, and how does it affect its own actions on the community, and in which order should those be processed … Everything is harder than it seems. Sad.

  So federation is fine LOL.

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  • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why too narrow of a use case?

    Imagine federation with text linked to other text, that’d be crazy, right?

    Wait, it’s actually more complicated than that 🤔

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    But FR using existing federated protocols to build something like this is EXACTLY what the protocols are for. You don’t need to implement the federation yourself, you can use an existing network

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