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If it’s one to one communication, it’s probably not going to be productive, but worth a shot, just don’t waste too much time.

In a public forum, it’s more about giving the lurkers something to process, those that might not have gotten emotionally attached to one side or another, or just need to see there’s a diversity of thought to avoid getting too sucked into one thing or another.

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jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I may be misunderstanding, but are you approaching this from the perspective that anyone you’re debating with on a public forum is emotionally attached to one side or another?

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- theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Sounds like they are. If you are willing to debate, you are very likely “emotionally attached” to the side you are advocating for.
  
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  - jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Hmm, I guess it stands to reason that people willing to argue with you about the subject are more likely to be emotionally invested in it. I wouldn’t say that’s overwhelmingly true though.
    
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    moakley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    People become emotionally invested because they argue. Arguing fortifies their emotional stance.
    
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- jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  If someone is proactively expressing an opinion or responding, they are frequently pretty attached to the position they take if it is vaguely important.
  
  It’s not universal, but it’s probable that if you make a strong statement towards the Internet, your view is kind of set and certainly some text from some anonymous guy on the Internet is supremely low on the list of things that are going to change your mind.
  
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  - jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    By virtue of being somebody who argues on the internet, shouldn’t you then reason that all of your beliefs are suspect, especially the ones you believe most strongly? You must surely expect that you are as unreceptive to new ideas that challenge your beliefs as anyone else. In particular, any evidence in favour of the idea that people can change their mind when confronted with new information you would simply discard.
    
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    DancingBear@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Yes. In fact, all of us should simultaneously attempt to defecate in our pants… ready? 3…. 👀
    
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