Comment on Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs

• ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  GASP!

  You mean… Proper capitalism!?

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Okay there’s a ton of spyware in the car, but - just . . don’t . . . connect it. Or whatever.

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    • oakward@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Which of them are you talking about?

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      • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yes

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    • TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      And you think ICE cars don’t have spyware these days?

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      • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I dunno, ICE cars weren’t on my list to start with. I assume.

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    • Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Most cars have their own embedded SIMs nowadays. They’re already connected. You can’t disconnect them.

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      • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, I haven’t bought a new car in many many years.

        That’s absolutely unacceptable. I would have the dashboard pulled out in minutes. Wherever the modem is, it wouldn’t be there for long.

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• KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I don’t know that they’re out to make money though. A lot of the Chinese manufacturers are now struggling due to the price war they instigated themselves. Huge production surplus but they pushed down the price so much they hardly make any money

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  • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I think a lot of it is also growing their market share and establishing their brand.

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    • KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Brand recognition is important, but it’s a dangerous game operating mostly on government subsidies. Once you have established low prices it’s hard to reverse it

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  • Meron35@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Competition is fierce, but they are not exactly struggling due to government subsidies/incentives. These are so extreme that Chinese manufacturers are over producing and dumping “used” EVs with zero mileage for export.

    Similar to US agricultural dumping, this is a terrible policy for everyone, except for the beneficiaries of the subsidies, and maybe the overseas consumers who get cheap EVs in the short term.

    China’s Zero-Mile ‘Used’ EVs Are Flooding Global Markets - insideevs.com/news/…/china-zero-mile-used-evs/

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