Comment on User says access to ’30 years of photos and work’ in OneDrive denied by Microsoft, can't get a response after filing form 18 times — 'Microsoft suspended my account without warning, reason, or any leg

aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It definitely can be. This person didn’t have the data anywhere else, so they didn’t have a backup. I use cloud storage as one of my backups.

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• wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are services line eazy backup or borgbase that I wound consider backups

  But iCloud or Google drive or Dropbox or onedrive are not.

  Aside from account deletion when you overwrite a file there’s no retention — backups should be immutable, they’re vulnerable to bitlockers, storing media on them can trigger hash based piracy detection systems (whether you’ve legally acquired material or not), and they don’t have a policy that allows you to bulk download quickly without interruption or rate limiting.

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• 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It can be your offsite backup in the 3-2-1 backup policy.

  3 copies 2 mediums 1 offsite

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  • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anything that syncs doesn’t actually backup. It’s just a mirror. If something happens to one of them, that deletion/corruption might get synced to the other one before you can recover it.

    Online backup is a different and valid thing, it’s an actual static preservation of a version of the files at some point in time that isn’t automatically edited or removed based on the contents of another device.

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    • CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can still use it as a target for a more sophisticated backup solution though, like borg. Borg handles the versioning, integrity, and encryption, so online backup can just be used as dumb storage location. If the online backup deletes your data or locks you out, just use your other copies to recreate the backup into another dumb online storage. In this way, your online backup target doesn't have to be very reliable, as long as it doesn't fail at the exact same time as your other backups.

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      • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you’re going to go through all that trouble, you’re not going to target Google Drive outside of a proof of concept, just remove it from your workflow and make life way less complicated.

        Buy inexpensive server access in a neutral country and apply that logic to it. So much more freedom & privacy, so much more reliability.

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    • 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Syncing with versioning is a solid backup of each state of a file and any changes it undergoes. Depending on how long you have it set to keep those changes, it can be an even better backup than a once daily backup. If you get hit with a deletion or corruption, just reload the previous version that isn’t deleted or corrupted.

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      • aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re conflating syncing with backing up, and unfortunately that very thing is what confuses so many not-tech savvy people into thinking cloud syncing is the same as an actual recoverable backup.

        If you found a service that does actual hard backups with versioning and still makes accessing those fils as easy as cloud storage, awesome! Post links to that.

        That is a valid offsite backup solution. Google Drive is not.

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