Comment on Mozilla review of 25 car brands finds they're "a privacy nightmare"

zoe@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• dejf@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We need cars that aren’t giant IoT boxes that keep phoning home. The vast majority of “smart” car systems shouldn’t need an Internet connection to function. But yes, I agree with your sentiment.

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• phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Never gonna happen unless governments force them.

  What WILL happen is that more and more non-critical features will become pay to play. You’ll rent the air conditioner in your car.

  Installing your own software will become (or likely already is) illegal since if you’re u do that you could play without pay on the car that you paid for with your money.

  Corporations must be limited I’m what they can do, NOW. No more data monitoring and selling. No more ads pushed. No more pay to play. No more limiting what you can do with the products that you buy and own

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• twistypencil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Then we can joke for two decades that this year will be the year the Linux car will be able to drive

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• pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You just need an older car with a DIN profile radio. You can swap it out for whatever you want.

  I should chuck in a box with homebrew firmware for the lulz.

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  • zoe@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    as long as the ecu allows u to start ur car even when changing the radio or tinkering with the infotainement system i wouldn’t mind…but i probably doubt it: car manufacturers will really tie critical car features to spying hardware so they could reach their end

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  • zoe@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yea man buy an old car and riddle it with fancy features: (TPMS):tire monitoring pressure system, Lidar for brake anticipation and also highway cruising, parking sensors and cameras back and front, dashcams front and back (even cameras at the door handles like a Tesla). Tbh i like it when an old car gets modded by third party with latest car features that way u really saving the environment from a ton of metal junk. A BMW or A Tesla are just filled to the brim with sensors, but also more parts mean more breaking parts so there should be a balance between refurbishing an old car and making it basically undriveable with breakdowns.

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• Javi_in_4k@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We’ve had up until the last few years.

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• Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Someone could probably make a good amount of money charging like $50 to stick a nail through the cellular chip of new cars to disable that phone home shit.

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• Aux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We had a Mozilla phone. Enough is enough.

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  • zoe@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    how did it fare haha ? at least there is no apple car to compete with…yet :/

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    • Aux@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tesla is pretty much an Apple car with a locked down ecosystem and ridiculous warranty terms, which prevent regular evacuation. And even though Musk is a complete nutjob, Tesla is still holding 65.4% share of EV market.

      Regular people just LOVE buying shit. So yeah, I’m not surprised that this privacy nightmare exists. When your main competitor sells hundreds of thousands of vehicles each year and completely dominates the market with draconian terms and conditions, utter privacy violations and ridiculous warranty terms, you kind of have to start doing the same shit or your company might end up bankrupt.

      I understand that many people on Lemmy are unable to see the truth standing in front of them, but the reality is that no one gives a shit about privacy. If that wasn’t the case, there would be no Facebook, no Apple and Google and no Tesla. But they DO exist, they DO dominate the market and everyone who chooses a different business path goes down sooner or later.

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      • zoe@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        disposable income is called as such for a reason.and these companies are just an extension for people’s whims since people have voted for them with their data and wallet. so the system is running as intended and there is no need to be worried

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• Rose@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Teslas are powered by Linux as far as I know.

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