Comment on America last night
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 9 months ago
This shit is actually not funny. Why isn’t anyone taking the beginning of world war three seriously. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
You are taking crazy pills. Who is the other major power involved in this war? Russia? They barely talked about the attacks. They are way too busy in the Ukraine?
China? You think China will risk it’s prosperity for an isolated theocratic regime?
So who’s left?
Would the USA go to war against China to prevent China from becoming the hegemon? If so, what is the strategic relevance of Iran for China? At least right now Iran is an important source for oil but that could also come from Russia.
China would not risk a global conflict crashing their economy for a war in Iran. As you said, Russian Oil is sufficient for China.
And no, not even under the auspices of chief Cheeto would America risk a direct confrontation with a nuclear power such as China. A proxy war? Sure.
Think of all the sticks and stones everybody will have once this is over.
What would you have me do?
Oh is it world war 3 again? Crumbs it’s come around fast this time hasn’t it. Are we up to them securing the oil fields yet, or are they still talking about WMDs?
I’ve been hearing about WWIII basically my entire life now. I don’t give a flying fuck. I’m trying to pay bills and enjoy my measly life until I can’t at all.
Worrying about shit I literally cannot control is goddamn exhausting.
idiots in power are funny, human suffering does not change that
That’s not how these things work, if anything, the more serious an event is, the more that thing is going to be what people make jokes and memes about, to dampen the stress of the situation if nothing else. I’m not sure there’s actually such a thing as an event so serious that nobody makes jokes about it.
I heard a couple of comedians make jokes about the 787 Air India crash like two days after it happened.
They didn’t get any laughs, and even got a few mutters from the audience.
They said something like, “the plane crashed while taking off from Ahmedabad. Maybe it should be ‘Ah-plane-is-bad.’” Or maybe, “Ah-made-a-bad-plane.” I can’t remember. Crickets.
(Inside I wanted to tell them that the Boeing 787 has one of the best safety records of any commercial airliner. It’s not a bad plane. But obviously that isn’t funny either. And heckling is shitty.)
Then they said, “Miraculously one man survived. He walked off the plane, over to an ambulance, pointed back at the wreckage and said, ‘Do NOT go in there!’”
This got a few chuckles, but it was clearly uncomfortable.
I’m not sure how we know as a group what is okay and what isn’t okay to laugh about. But usually I argue humor is a good coping mechanism.
Just sounds like a bad joke to me. But I tend to dislike all stand up stuff, so I’ll wait until someone else judges this.
Some people use humor as a coping mechanism to the stressful events.
I think if ww3 were to happen, the memes would indeed be funny as fuck
This is serious, but I’m not seeing how this is the beginning of WWIII. China attacking Taiwan could be that, but this really isn’t.
So the US, Israel, and Germany have been directly involved in this conflict thus far.
Russia is currently in a war with Ukraine as we know, and has announced their support of Iran. North Korea has been sending troops to this conflict. US and much of western Europe is already involved in some way.
China has been reported sending some kind of undisclosed aid to Iran already.
Currently unrelated but Pakistan and India just had a border skirmish. Pakistan does border Iran.
There’s a lot of instability and World Wars worth of countries involved already. It truly wouldn’t take much to start connecting some of these conflicts. If that happens it gets much bigger
General instability does not make a world war. It takes quite a lot of deliberate effort for that to happen. Undisclosed aid to Iran means nothing, and Pakistan India border skirmishes are unrelated to Iran.
The most likely scenario I could see is if the US gets bogged down in a drawn out war with Iran, and other powers, China specifically, exploits that situation to do their own expanding. It helps that the US has never been weaker, and that its leadership is easily exploitable of course. Although it is also unpredictable.
Well guess what the US bombing Iran makes more likely.
How?
There is three major “theaters” right now:
The US already moved multiple ships from East Asia to facilitate the attacks on Iran. If Iran responds by retaliating against US based in the region, the US will probably commit large amounts of forces and get itself into another Iraq/Afghanistan style situation.
This removes US forces and restocking capabilities from East Asia. Now China can expand itself in that region, which the US had thought to contain by its military presence.
The US has been trying to “pivot” out of West Asia into East Asia for over a decade now. This also explains Israels attacks on Iran now in an attempt to force the US to maintain focused on the region. Think of it like the older child throwing tantrums when their younger sibling is getting more attention.
oppy1984@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Laugh or scream.
Cruxifux@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Best point made so far.