Comment on Study: Remote working benefits fathers while childless men miss sense of community

leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I like my coworkers. They’re cool. I just went to acro yoga with one, and go bouldering with another. We show up, talk shit, and get the job done - sometimes it’s a good time. Sometimes we get our asses kicked. But that builds camradrie, too.

  I will say, this is blue collar stuff. When I worked as a software dev, I definitely didn’t care about spending much time with my coworkers.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I used to work for a bunch of lawyers. I would happily take a fire axe to every single one of them.

    They really didn’t like remote working and tried to put a stop to it and “sense of community” was their excuse as well, but it was really about control.

    It would be interesting if they did this study again in an environment like that, where people aren’t really friendly with their co-workers. I imagine they would get a vastly different result.

    This study may not be BS in particular, for that one case, but it is BS in general

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• Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yes I do, speak for yourself.

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  • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well, just from reading that I can assure you your coworkers don’t.

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• barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I guess it’s a poor choice of words but there’s definite value in workplace camaraderie. Don’t let your jadedness fuel the bosses’ union busting.

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  • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unions aren’t community.

    They’re a necessary defence mechanism against capitalism.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Humour is a defence mechanism. Altruism is a defence mechanism. And with those two, camaraderie is a given.

      Also it would be a sorry state of affairs if workers under capitalism had their defence mechanisms, but not canalisation workers shovelling literal shit.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unions haven’t got anything to do with it. Unions are about protecting you from unfair business practises, it’s not a social club, nor do they try to be.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      No union without social interaction to found and preserve it. It’s why small businesses are much worse at ganging up on big businesses than workers are at ganging up on bosses: Businesses aren’t people, they don’t have social interactions. Workers are and do, thus unions can and do form.

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