Well… Matrix. I don’t think it requires self-hosting? It’s E2EE and there are plenty of public servers.
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Ofiuco@piefed.ca 10 months agovga@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Honestly, I get why one would be discouraged by signal, but as long as your threat model is not “NSA and mossad have a price on my head”, I think it is still the best non-federated alternative. I’d rather take a flawed messenger with well regarded encryption than a beta version that nobody with time and crypto knowledge ever looked at.
belit_deg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I’ve been using Keet for a couple of months now, really like it. Still in beta, but you can ask questions to the devs in the open chat rooms and they actually give you sound answers
Ofiuco@piefed.ca 10 months ago
Which one of those is closer to what Telegram brings to the table?
Mostly pretty stuff like gifs/mp4/webm with alpha, stickers, animated stickers and handling things like webp/webm, self-destructing multimedia, chats that dissapear after X time... maybe groups and channels too, adding people by alias instead of phone number (maybe qr, but not a huge link like the one SimpleX uses).You know, things that could help me to bring my "friends" and family on board or at least to give it a try.
belit_deg@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Just try and see for yourself. Like I said, only tried Keet. Features
- Share files as big as you like, 2m, 2g, 2t, doesn’t matter
- Windows, linux, ios, android
- Groups, dm’s, broadcast feed
- No phone number or email needed, add by alias/link/qr
- Unlimited call quality since theres no server in between or throttling
- Share emojis, gifs, videos (no stickers or self-destruct atm)
unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
It is forkable if necessary. I do think SimpleX is a great piece of software that shouldn’t be reinvented because of the founder.
penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
XMPP?
Ofiuco@piefed.ca 10 months ago
[deleted]penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
That’s very fair. Better start contributing I guess.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 10 months ago
why does matrix require you self hosting? There’s a bunch of free open-signup servers available
Ofiuco@piefed.ca 10 months ago
Because Matrix isn't exactly private since it's meant to be a Discord clone and I share piracy among my friends and family, or for the sexy times with my friends, I need something that at least has self-destructing messages or chats where messages dissapear after some time.
I could trust it if I could self-host, but I lack the hardware (disk space, mostly) and the availability (I can't leave my pc on all the time [also I live in México, the internet is terrible and I tend to hog it if I'm downloading something]), so I'd have to trust some random yahoo with my stuff but it wouldn't have what I'm looking for anyway.
JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev 10 months ago
Electric is not a discord clone and element has a customer base more similar to slack. And to end encrypted direct messages have been the default for years now in Matrix.
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 10 months ago
matrix isn’t meant to be a discord clone, the matrix project is actually older than discord. the chats in all major clients are end-to-end encrypted now, too. are you maybe thinking of revolt?
Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 10 months ago
The write-up I’m referencing has some at the end. Maybe Delta chat?
Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Take a look at Delta chat? I can’t find a fault with it yet…