Comment on matrix is cooked

• Lazycog@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The write-up I’m referencing has some at the end. Maybe Delta chat?

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• penguin202124@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  XMPP?

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  • Ofiuco@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

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    • penguin202124@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s very fair. Better start contributing I guess.

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Well… Matrix. I don’t think it requires self-hosting? It’s E2EE and there are plenty of public servers.

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• kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  why does matrix require you self hosting? There’s a bunch of free open-signup servers available

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  • Ofiuco@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because Matrix isn't exactly private since it's meant to be a Discord clone and I share piracy among my friends and family, or for the sexy times with my friends, I need something that at least has self-destructing messages or chats where messages dissapear after some time.

    I could trust it if I could self-host, but I lack the hardware (disk space, mostly) and the availability (I can't leave my pc on all the time [also I live in México, the internet is terrible and I tend to hog it if I'm downloading something]), so I'd have to trust some random yahoo with my stuff but it wouldn't have what I'm looking for anyway.

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    • JadedBlueEyes@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Electric is not a discord clone and element has a customer base more similar to slack. And to end encrypted direct messages have been the default for years now in Matrix.

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    • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      matrix isn’t meant to be a discord clone, the matrix project is actually older than discord. the chats in all major clients are end-to-end encrypted now, too. are you maybe thinking of revolt?

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• LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Honestly, I get why one would be discouraged by signal, but as long as your threat model is not “NSA and mossad have a price on my head”, I think it is still the best non-federated alternative. I’d rather take a flawed messenger with well regarded encryption than a beta version that nobody with time and crypto knowledge ever looked at.

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• belit_deg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’ve been using Keet for a couple of months now, really like it. Still in beta, but you can ask questions to the devs in the open chat rooms and they actually give you sound answers

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  • Ofiuco@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Which one of those is closer to what Telegram brings to the table?
    Mostly pretty stuff like gifs/mp4/webm with alpha, stickers, animated stickers and handling things like webp/webm, self-destructing multimedia, chats that dissapear after X time... maybe groups and channels too, adding people by alias instead of phone number (maybe qr, but not a huge link like the one SimpleX uses).

    You know, things that could help me to bring my "friends" and family on board or at least to give it a try.

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    • belit_deg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Just try and see for yourself. Like I said, only tried Keet. Features

      • Share files as big as you like, 2m, 2g, 2t, doesn’t matter
      • Windows, linux, ios, android
      • Groups, dm’s, broadcast feed
      • No phone number or email needed, add by alias/link/qr
      • Unlimited call quality since theres no server in between or throttling
      • Share emojis, gifs, videos (no stickers or self-destruct atm)

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• unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It is forkable if necessary. I do think SimpleX is a great piece of software that shouldn’t be reinvented because of the founder.

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• Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Take a look at Delta chat? I can’t find a fault with it yet…

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